So, here are finally some results from JMeter for 600 requests. Both
MyFaces and Mojarra runs on Jetty8.

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/4720/stateless.jpg

AFAICS MyFaces performs better on postbacks but Mojarra seems to be faster
for get requests.

Anybody knows why Mojarra is a lot faster for the first example (Simple
page with 2000 items in a h:datatable) under load?

Also i sent back the the code to rudy for 3 weeks ago but he did not shared
/ posted it. Now i completely refactored the code again and added complete
MyFaces compatibility.
Is anyone interested in this extension?
Where could i share it?
I could add it as submodule to primefaces-extensions but it has nothing to
do with primefaces...
MyFaces Extension or else would be great :D


2012/1/5 Thomas Andraschko <zoi...@googlemail.com>

> Hi Mark,
>
> thanks for sharing your request times!
>
> don't know but it's really that slow^^
> Currently the test page is embedded in a private project but i will create
> an own test project only for "stateless-jsf".
> I will also do some load tests with JMeter and share the result then.
>
> Hopefully MYFACES-3266 can be done in the next versions, this blows up my
> code :)
>
> Best regards,
> Thomas
>
>
> 2011/12/31 Mark Struberg <strub...@yahoo.de>
>
>> MyFaces is faster, but I didn't think that Mojarra is so slow ^^.
>> Our fat pages (~2000 lines in a complex h:dataTable -> more than 300.000
>> ELResolver invocations) use to take up to 350ms. Small pages render in 17ms
>> on our Server with OWB and MyFaces.
>>
>> I once tested the fat pages with Glassfish and didn't came under 5
>> seconds. But this was quite some time ago when Weld used to be much slower
>> (we now gave them a few hints on performance improvements in the meantme)
>> and the Sun EL impl had some serious performance hogs.
>>
>>
>> Is your test page setup freely available? You might share your findings
>> with the Mojarra team. They might be interested to check where they have
>> problematic spots.
>>
>> LieGrue,
>> strub
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: Thomas Andraschko <zoi...@googlemail.com>
>> > To: MyFaces Discussion <users@myfaces.apache.org>
>> > Cc:
>> > Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 4:21 AM
>> > Subject: Re: Weird PlexusContainer object in ViewRoot
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > so i just did some final tests and these are the result with MyFaces
>> and a
>> > simple test page.
>> > The values are not really accurate, i just tested in on my locale system
>> > with firebug for around 10-15 times.
>> >
>> > AJAX PostBacks (Production):
>> > Before: 32-52ms
>> > After: 23-37ms
>> >
>> > PostBack (Production):
>> > Before: 27ms
>> > After: 12ms
>> >
>> > The same page with Mojarra:
>> >
>> > AJAX PostBacks (Production):
>> > Before: 148-196ms
>> > After: 26-50ms
>> >
>> > PostBack (Production):
>> > Before: 140-170ms
>> > After: 15-27ms
>> >
>> > Also if the values are not really accurate, is MyFaces really that much
>> > faster?
>> >
>> > You said that you use a simliar plugin for stateless views.
>> > How does your plugin work? Some details would be great :)
>> >
>> > Best regards
>> > Thomas
>> >
>> > 2011/12/30 Thomas Andraschko <zoi...@googlemail.com>
>> >
>> >>  Hi,
>> >>
>> >>  yep, thanks!
>> >>  I completly redeveloped it (i also contributed the new code back) and
>> i
>> >>  just test it but the improvement is similar - it's much faster!
>> >>  I can post the detail later :)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>  2011/12/30 Martin Koci <martin.kocicak.k...@gmail.com>
>> >>
>> >>>  Hi,
>> >>>
>> >>>  do you mean non-static logger in myfaces UIViewRoot ? That is
>> probably
>> >>>  problem [1] - I must solve it finally.
>> >>>
>> >>>  I checked quickly statelessjsf - we use similar solution in some jsf
>> >>>  project - completely stateless views.
>> >>>
>> >>>  Which improvement do you see with myfaces + statelessjsf? The blog
>> [2]
>> >>>  shows at the first picture time 98ms vs. 7ms : 90% improvement: did
>> you
>> >>>  get similar results with myfaces?
>> >>>
>> >>>  Regards,
>> >>>
>> >>>  Kočičák
>> >>>
>> >>>  [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES-3266
>> >>>  [2]
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >
>> http://industrieit.com/blog/2011/11/stateless-jsf-high-performance-zero-per-request-memory-overhead/
>> >>>
>> >>>  Thomas Andraschko píše v Pá 30. 12. 2011 v 12:43 +0100:
>> >>>  > Hi,
>> >>>  >
>> >>>  > thanks for you answer :)
>> >>>  > Jap, i deploy it with jetty:run.
>> >>>  > I already found the issue, somehow this objects are stored in the
>> >>>  Logger.
>> >>>  > I changed the code that the logger will be removed before cloning
>> > the
>> >>>  > ViewRoot.
>> >>>  > Now it also works with MyFaces :)
>> >>>  >
>> >>>  > Thomas
>> >>>  >
>> >>>  > 2011/12/30 Martin Koci <martin.kocicak.k...@gmail.com>
>> >>>  >
>> >>>  > > Hi,
>> >>>  > >
>> >>>  > > Plexus container is a IoC container used by Maven, so this
>> > must be
>> >>>  > > bug/feature in maven jetty plugin in combination with
>> > statelessjsf. Do
>> >>>  > > you deploy it with mvn jetty:run?
>> >>>  > >
>> >>>  > > Regards,
>> >>>  > >
>> >>>  > > Kočičák
>> >>>  > >
>> >>>  > > Thomas Andraschko píše v Út 27. 12. 2011 v 15:00 +0100:
>> >>>  > > > Hi,
>> >>>  > > >
>> >>>  > > > i'm trying to use the statelessjsf addon (It's a
>> > addon developed by
>> >>>  > > > industrieit from rudy but the link is currently offline)
>> > for my
>> >>>  > > > application. In a basic sample application it works with
>> > myfaces
>> >>>  (with
>> >>>  > > some
>> >>>  > > > modification) and mojarra.
>> >>>  > > > Somehow in my real project, i get an exception when the
>> > addon is
>> >>>  trying
>> >>>  > > to
>> >>>  > > > clone the viewroot:
>> >>>  > > >
>> >>>  > > > java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Can not set
>> >>>  > > > org.codehaus.plexus.PlexusContainer field
>> >>>  > > >
>> >>>  org.codehaus.plexus.archiver.manager.DefaultArchiverManager.container
>> > to
>> >>>  > > >
>> > org.codehaus.plexus.archiver.manager.DefaultArchiverManager
>> >>>  > > >     at
>> >>>  > > >
>> >>>  > >
>> >>>
>> >
>> sun.reflect.UnsafeFieldAccessorImpl.throwSetIllegalArgumentException(UnsafeFieldAccessorImpl.java:146)
>> >>>  > > >     at
>> >>>  > > >
>> >>>  > >
>> >>>
>> >
>> sun.reflect.UnsafeFieldAccessorImpl.throwSetIllegalArgumentException(UnsafeFieldAccessorImpl.java:150)
>> >>>  > > >     at
>> >>>  > > >
>> >>>  > >
>> >>>
>> >
>> sun.reflect.UnsafeFieldAccessorImpl.ensureObj(UnsafeFieldAccessorImpl.java:37)
>> >>>  > > >     at
>> >>>  > > >
>> >>>  > >
>> >>>
>> >
>> sun.reflect.UnsafeObjectFieldAccessorImpl.set(UnsafeObjectFieldAccessorImpl.java:57)
>> >>>  > > >
>> >>>  > > > This does only occur if i run the application within
>> > maven and
>> >>>  jetty. On
>> >>>  > > > Tomcat, no exception occurs.
>> >>>  > > > Where does this Plexus stuff come from? Why is it in the
>> > view root?
>> >>>  > > >
>> >>>  > > > Thanks and best regards
>> >>>  > > > Thomas
>> >>>  > >
>> >>>  > >
>> >>>  > >
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>
>

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