I think Scott is onto something. I've run 20 or so tests where I experienced this by leaving my external mouse still and using the button on the laptop touchpad to do the clicking, and there were no "missed/ignored" clicks. Same story for a similar problem with opening files via double-click.

On 2020-04-30 18:39, Alan wrote:

That's a definite possibility... I'm a "drive by clicker", notorious for small mouse shifts between down and up. I'll try testing that out.

On 2020-04-30 16:11, Scott Palmer wrote:
Same on macOS. It seems if the mouse moves a single pixel between mouse down and mouse up then it may not count as a click.

Scott

On Apr 30, 2020, at 11:59 AM, Darin Miller <darinsmil...@gmail.com> wrote:


I also observe the "ultra precise" mouse behavior. Both on win7 and win10 desktops.

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On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 9:52 AM Alan <netbeans.5zc...@ambitonline.com <mailto:netbeans.5zc...@ambitonline.com>> wrote:

    Hi Eirik,

    No display scaling, everything is 100%. It's also
    monitor-independent. The problem is inconsistent, although it's
    more prevalent with breakpoints than with the document close.
    The highlight box is a good indication that the mouse position
    is getting read right, it's the click event that seems to be
    problematic.

    At this point I'm waiting for a time when I have the presence of
    mind to start screen captures. Then maybe I can better
    characterize the problem. It doesn't appear to be a consistent
    shift. I suspect the location of the actual hostspot is
    dependent on screen coordinates. I've had this experience with
    all the 11.x series, can't recall if it was there in 10.x or
    not, but it's new since 8.2. If it's not "just me" with this
    problem I'll see if I can set aside some time to get some more
    actionable information.

    This is an older machine, ASUS G75 laptop, i7-3630QM CPU, 12GB
    RAM, SSD drives. Video card is NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660M, two
    external monitors, external mouse Logitech M545. NB is usually
    on a LG QHD 2560x1440 monitor.

    On 2020-04-30 10:37, Eirik Bakke wrote:
    I get the red box hover highlight around the "X" to close a document, but 
unless I click in exactly the right place within that box, the document doesn't close.
    Hmm, odd--I'm on Windows 10 as well, and hadn't had this problem. Do you have HiDPI scaling active 
by any chance? ("Display Settings"->"Change the Size of Text, Apps and Other 
Items")

    Will be easier to debug if you can find a way to consistently reproduce the 
problem.

    -- Eirik

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    Subject: Mouse quirks

    The question about odd laptop quirks has reminded me. Does anyone else 
experience this...

    Under intermittent circumstances, mouse clicks seem to need to be extremely precise. 
For example on closing a document, I get the red box hover highlight around the 
"X" to close a document, but unless I click in exactly the right place within 
that box, the document doesn't close.
    There's no consistency as to where the right spot is, either. This happens 
with sufficient frequency that I'm in the habit of using Crtl-W or right 
clicking and selecting close instead.

    I also get this when trying to clear a breakpoint.

    Running Windows 10 rev 1909, 64 bit, Java 13.0.2.


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