Alan I meant open source, typo on my part. I understand the difference between the old and new setup.
Geertjan See here https://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html Specifically look at the roles section, the user and developer role are posted below. This is what I meant when I was talking about the differences between users and developers. USER¶ <https://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#users> A *user* is someone that uses our software. They contribute to the Apache projects by providing feedback to developers in the form of bug reports and feature suggestions. Users participate in the Apache community by helping other users on mailing lists and user support forums. DEVELOPER <https://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#developers> A *developer* is a user who contributes to a project in the form of code or documentation. They take extra steps to participate in a project, are active on the developer mailing list, participate in discussions, provide patches, documentation, suggestions, and criticism. Developers are also known as *contributors* On Fri, 15 May 2020, 19:14 Alan, <netbeans.5zc...@ambitonline.com> wrote: > I think the confusion here might be between Oracle Netbeans, which > presumably had the support of salaried contributors and Apache Netbeans, > which is supported by the people who use it. It's no longer an "outsource" > project. > On 2020-05-15 14:09, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > > > I disagree. :-) > > In a community project, there are no users. Everyone is a contributor — > there are many very small and simple ways to contribute requiring little > time or knowledge. > > When you use technology, you either contribute money, for commercial > projects, or you contribute time, for free projects. It’s never the case > that you contribute nothing at all. > > Gj > > On Fri, 15 May 2020 at 19:57, Peter Steele <steeleh...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Geertjan >> >> I personally have no interest in whether the page is up-to-date or not. I >> was just pointing out the fact the links are out of date. >> >> Typically in an outsource project there are maintainers of that project >> who actively develop / improve the product and users of that projects who >> don't usually develop but raise issues and highlight things to the >> maintainers. This mailing list is the users mailing list so expect a lot >> questions to the maintainers here. I see your default answer to a lot of >> questions about changes in the user list is basically "where is your pull >> request" but you are giving this to the wrong audience. >> >> >> On Fri, 15 May 2020, 14:46 Geertjan Wielenga, <geert...@apache.org> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> Your pull request is welcome, bottom of each page there’s a link >>> directly to the GitHub of each page on netbeans.apache.org >>> >>> Gj >>> >>> On Fri, 15 May 2020 at 15:39, Peter Steele <steeleh...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Quite a few of those links don't work, maybe worth removing the or >>>> updating them. >>>> >>>> On Fri, 15 May 2020, 14:35 Geertjan Wielenga, <geert...@apache.org> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Do you think you can look up Peter Kriens on LinkedIn and just ask him >>>>> yourself? >>>>> >>>>> Gj >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, 15 May 2020 at 15:31, Joel Craig <jcr...@wavelinkinc.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Try here >>>>>> https://github.com/apache/netbeans-website-cleanup/blob/master/src/content/platform/tutorials/80/nbm-osgi-quickstart.html >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 11:04 PM Varuna Seneviratna < >>>>>> varunasenevira...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> Not able to find Sudoku Game by Peter Kriens by the link given at >>>>>>> NetBeans Platform Quick Start Using OSGi >>>>>>> <https://t.co/YXSJ6SCNZH?amp=1>, Can you help, please. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Varuna >>>>>>> >>>>>>
