Hi Quintin,

Here is a typical startup log. There are a lot of EJB's for sure, but 
significant time is taken while assembling the app. (Is that when it searches 
for the EJB classes?)

Cheers,
Vikrant

-----Original Message-----
From: Quintin Beukes [mailto:quin...@skywalk.co.za]
Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 7:15 PM
To: users@openejb.apache.org
Subject: Re: OpenEJB Startup Performance

Like mentioned.

Can you perhaps send us a log output of when OpenEJB starts up.

Q

On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Vikrant Yagnick
<vikrant.yagn...@mastek.com> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Thanks for the replies.
>
> We already have a ejb-jar.xml since we have been using EJB 2.1(not 3.0 
> unfortunately...:().
> The number of EJB's are going to remain pretty static since it has already 
> been developed.
>
> This won't really be that big a problem in Production, as once openejb 
> initializes there is no more delay. I need to figure out a way to initialize 
> it automatically when the main container starts-up (rather than on the first 
> request to the application).

>
> The pain really is while we are in development as for any small change 
> requiring a container re-start openEJB needs to re-create the entire 
> application assembly.
>
> We initialize openEJB using openejb.conf and set the following:
> <Deployments dir="classes" />
>
> The "classes" folder contains a META-INF folder which in-turn has the 
> ejb-jar.xml.
>
> I apologize if this sounds like a real newbie question, but is there a better 
> way for us to do this?
>
> Cheers,
> Vikrant
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jonathan Gallimore [mailto:jonathan.gallim...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 6:01 PM
> To: users@openejb.apache.org
> Subject: Re: OpenEJB Startup Performance
>
> On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 10:30 PM, Quintin Beukes <quin...@skywalk.co.za>wrote:
>
>> Hey,
>>
>> I'm no EJB master either, but I can answer your questions with what I do
>> know.
>>
>> 1. Perfectly fine. If you run it in something like Geronimo, it's
>> basically just embedded in Geronimo. Your web server is nothing more
>> than a Java Application, and OpenEJB has 2 modes, Standalone and
>> Embedded (I think there is another one I can't recall). So you're just
>> initializing the OpenEJB application inside your VM, and have the same
>> stability/functionality provided in any other mode. In fact, I would
>> recommend doing this with OpenEJB any day.
>>
>
> This is absolutely right, it should work fine for you, and will basically
> just run like the Embedded container. I do this at work for the day job - we
> functionally test our app using Jetty and OpenEJB, and then we can just
> access our app as if it were running in JBoss or Geronimo. Its not used in
> production (yet - but we have considered it) but it works very well. (I
> wrote it up here:
> http://openejb.apache.org/functional-testing-with-openejb-jetty-and-selenium.htmlif
> you're interested).
>
> Let us know if have any problems with this setup.
>
>
>
>
>>
>> 2. How many EJBs do you have for it to take this long? If you have a
>> huge classpath you can try trimming down the search to only the
>> desired JARs. See:
>> http://openejb.apache.org/3.0/application-discovery-via-the-classpath.html
>> .
>> Alternatively you can try and specify static bean configurations in
>> ejb-jar.xml. They would be something like this:
>>
>> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" ?>
>> <ejb-jar xmlns="http://java.sun.com/xml/ns/javaee"; version="3.0"
>>         xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance";
>>         xsi:schemaLocation="http://java.sun.com/xml/ns/javaee
>>         http://java.sun.com/xml/ns/javaee/ejb-jar_3_0.xsd";>
>>   <enterprise-beans>
>>      <session>
>>         <ejb-name>TestBean</ejb-name>
>>         <local>net.kunye.test.TestLocal</local>
>>         <remote>net.kunye.test.TestRemote</remote>
>>      </session>
>>      <session>
>>         <ejb-name>PersonnelBean</ejb-name>
>>         <local>net.kunye.platform.personnel.PersonnelLocal</local>
>>         <remote>net.kunye.platform.personnel.PersonnelRemote</remote>
>>      </session>
>>   </enterprise-beans>
>> </ejb-jar>
>>
>> When you do this all the beans that are listed will be loaded from XML
>> (no annotation interpretation afaik) and the rest of the beans will be
>> loaded the normal way.
>>
>> What you can do is perhaps hook in a compile-time task to generate
>> this list for you. If you already have such a file with other
>> configurations, you can perhaps make a template and generate the
>> ejb-jar.xml everytime you compile.
>>
>> I'm not sure how much this will help. I've never really had to deal
>> with this problem. The most EJBs I've loaded was around 50 I think,
>> and it went quick. Some of the other guys might be able to help with
>> this.
>>
>> Q
>>
>
> I agree with what others have said here - it might be spending a long time
> searching the classpath for EJBs - changing
> openejb.deployments.classpath.include/exclude settings might help. If you
> can let us know how many EJBs you have, how many Jars are on your classpath,
> and maybe a log as well we might be able to help tune this a bit.
>
> Jon
>
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