Okey, okey,

i see. Indeed, the german pos-tagger works when using uppercase letters. Thanks 
for this hint Florian. So i have to ensure, that Uppercase/Lowercase is handled 
correctly. 

Two final quesations: 
* is there stemming support in openNLP 
* is the spelling support in opneNLP

Did not find any hints ... so guess that there is no support ..
Dan



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> Datum: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 23:52:30 -0700
> Von: Lance Norskog <[email protected]>
> An: [email protected]
> Betreff: Re: Newby Question on German POS Tagging

> I have no experience in this, I have just coded a little with the
> libraries.
> 
> On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 1:08 PM, Florian Kuhlmann <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > Hello Daniel,
> >
> > I'm new to the list, but as i also work with german language and
> POS-tags, i want to give my 2 cent:
> > Please consider that capitalisation is probably one of the features used
> to determine the correct tag.
> >
> > So if you have a noun like "Sonne" it should not begin with a small "s".
> Most NLP tools are not very robust for this kind of errors (and so
> sometimes out of the box not a good match for e.g. social media, because they 
> are
> trained on news which mostly have correct spelling).
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Florian
> >
> > ________________________________________
> > Von: daniel stieger [[email protected]]
> > Gesendet: Dienstag, 26. Juni 2012 21:56
> > An: [email protected]
> > Betreff: Re: Newby Question on German POS Tagging
> >
> > Hi Lance,
> >
> > thanks for your answer here. Is there a way to contact you (skype) for a
> small talk. That would help me a lot. Or can you recommend someone who is
> experienced?
> >
> > I m not into computer linguistic in detail. In past, i wrote my own
> algorithms, compined them with stemming and levinstein but openNLP would offer
> a totally different approach - i guess.
> >
> > Rright now, i just need someone who pushes me into the right direction.
> >
> > Any help appreciated .... :)
> > Dan
> >
> >
> > -------- Original-Nachricht --------
> >> Datum: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 01:27:07 -0700
> >> Von: Lance Norskog <[email protected]>
> >> An: [email protected]
> >> Betreff: Re: Newby Question on German POS Tagging
> >
> >> The Chunking tool might help here. Chunking means finding noun and
> >> verb phrases. This can help you find recurring phrases. Because German
> >> is agglutinative, this is probably a very different problem than in
> >> English. Are there any de-agglutinizer algorithms?
> >>
> >> On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 11:43 PM, daniel stieger
> <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > thanks a lot for your answers. My goal is to identify adjectives and
> >> nouns in association sentence. Eg. What do you associate with our
> brand?
> >> Answer: nice mountains, the mountains are very nice .. etc.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > If appropriate, i would use the openNLP posTagger (it seams to be the
> >> most elaborated java postagger) in order to identify nouns and
> adjectives. So
> >> when i input the sentence "the", "mountains", "are", "nice"
> >> > the output is correct - also when using single words:
> >> >
> >> >>> [DT, NNS, VBP, JJ]
> >> >>> [DT]
> >> >>> [NNS]
> >> >>> [VBP]
> >> >>> [JJ]
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Is the english model better than the german model? Do i have to build
> my
> >> own model - or is the de-maxent appropriate?
> >> >
> >> > Generally - is openNLP a good choice for my task?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks again,
> >> > Dan
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > -------- Original-Nachricht --------
> >> >> Datum: Sat, 23 Jun 2012 16:53:36 -0700
> >> >> Von: Lance Norskog <[email protected]>
> >> >> An: [email protected]
> >> >> Betreff: Re: Newby Question on German POS Tagging
> >> >
> >> >> What would you like to find out about your data? Until we know that
> it
> >> >> is difficult to recommend a technique.
> >> >>
> >> >> On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 4:15 AM, Thilo Goetz <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >> > On 22.06.2012 20:13, daniel stieger wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Hi List,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> i m looking for some suggestions and opinions for my task. The
> >> >> situation
> >> >> >> is this:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> In an online survey approx. 800 participants were asked a open
> text
> >> >> >> question like "What do you associate with our brand?".
> Participants
> >> can
> >> >> then
> >> >> >> enter 5 associations. Eg.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>  - nature
> >> >> >>  - beautifull mountains
> >> >> >>  - relax
> >> >> >>  - family friendly
> >> >> >>  - very good service
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Now i just want to run the openNLP Post tagger over all
> >> associations. I
> >> >> >> suppose that i can use one association just as one sentence.
> Instead
> >> of
> >> >> the
> >> >> >> english model, i used the de-maxent.bin model and some german
> >> answers.
> >> >> But
> >> >> >> the tags are somehow wrong. Eg.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> sonne -> KON
> >> >> >> familie -> ART     (it is a noun, definitely not an aricle)
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Am I on a wrong path? Should i handle my data differently? Or
> should
> >> i
> >> >> >> download an other model? Where can i get trainingdata ??
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> So many questions.. sorry.. but every hint appreciated,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> best,
> >> >> >> Daniel
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I'm pretty sure the model was trained on complete sentences.  The
> >> >> > tagging takes context into account, and will not work properly
> >> >> > without it.  So just running it on a couple of words at a time
> >> >> > will not work.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > If all your associations are NPs like your example,
> >> >> > you can maybe fix things by always prefixing "I like the ".  In
> >> >> > German, maybe "Ich liebe ".
> >> >> >
> >> >> > HTH,
> >> >> > Thilo
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
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> >> >> [email protected]
> >> >
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