Hi :) Ahh, great to hear someone else prefers Unity to KDE! I think the KDE team are great and doing great stuff and my neighbour thinks it's fantastic. I just find myself enjoying Unity nowadays but i'm glad KDE is around.
Hmm, do you have to buy a whole new computer just to get a new graphics card? My current desktop has had 4 new graphics cards over the years. But it's also had 2 changes of fans, 1 new power-supply, more ram, 3 new hard-drives, 3 'new'(ish) Cpus and 2 new mbords, err and 2 new cases (hence the change of fans). There's still 1 of the fans that has been in all combinations. Regards from Tom :) >________________________________ > From: Johnny Rosenberg <gurus.knu...@gmail.com> >To: users@openoffice.apache.org; LibreOffice Användare ><us...@global.libreoffice.org>; Ubuntu Användarforum ><ubuntu-us...@lists.ubuntu.com> >Sent: Sunday, 12 May 2013, 20:43 >Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] ”Artifacts” in OpenOffice and LibreOffice > > >2013/5/11 Andrew Douglas Pitonyak <and...@pitonyak.org>: >> >> I have had subtle redraw issues with OO off and on, and I always blamed it >> on an interaction between applications and the video drivers. Realize that I >> use nVidia video cards on 64-bit Fedora using the proprietary video drivers. >> What I saw was not remotely as bad. Admittedly, when I tried out the latest >> dev build, it was totally unusable (of course, the single tester was unable >> to reproduce on Windows 7). >> >> see https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122214 >> >> Are you able to do a test and change your video driver say between the free >> and not free driver to see if there is a change (I do not use Ubuntu so I >> don't have a good handle on what drivers are available or how). >> >> I used to have exactly the same problem in QT, and it was very bad. I was >> able to avoid the problem with QT Creator by starting it using >> >> -graphicssystem raster >> >> Not that I expect this to help you. I did notice that it still has some >> rendering issues that appeared in the latest versions (I believe it is >> related to an over-lay issue when you edit a field.... that assumption >> allowed me to fix it in the software that I write, but I did not jump into >> the QT code base). >> >> I have seen strange redraw issues so long in OO that correcting for it is >> almost automatic in my brain (scroll screen up then down to clear) so I >> cannot even say if I still see the problem. I think I do, but it is for sure >> not as bad is it used to be for me. >> >> I know, that I have rambled on and on.... I will summarize in saying >> >> 1. I have never seen it so bad >> 2. I have seen screen corruption >> 3. You may avoid some of it based on the video driver >> >> If I had it that bad on my Fedora system, I would likely change my desktop >> on login to see if it helped. With Fedora, I can easily jump between Gnome >> and KDE (as one example). I would also try jumping between the two different >> drivers available to see how that helped as well. Sadly, the "free" driver >> is poor with respect to 3D stuff. > >Thanks for your input, and also thanks to all of you who replied. > >I did some more tests and I found that it seems to be a problem >related to the fact that my graphics card is blacklisted for use with >Unity 3D. >First I installed KDE, just to see what happens. I wasn't sure what >package to install, so I installed kde-full, which maybe was a bit >overkill… >I logged out and then in to KDE, configured the driver to use both >screens, then I opened a spreadsheet. Oddly enough, it tried to open >the file with an archive manager, so I had to manually tell it to open >with OpenOffice. I then opened the Basic IDE window and I found no >problems what so ever, except that I don't like KDE, but that's >another question… > >I didn't try the free driver, but maybe I will later. > >Right now I am logged in to Unity 2D and that also works flawlessly. I >don't like Unity 2D either, though. I miss some Compiz effects, among >other things… Maybe I just have to live with it until I buy another >computer with a non-blacklisted graphics card… > > >Johnny Rosenberg > >> >> >> >> On 05/11/2013 08:52 AM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote: >>> >>> I have had this problem for quite some time now (months if not years) >>> in LibreOffice and OpenOffice. The problems are maybe a little bit >>> worse in LibreOffice, but I didn't exactly measure it… >>> >>> It looks like a graphics card problem, but why are nothing else >>> affected? It only happens to OpenOffice and LibreOffice. I tested a >>> few versions and it seems to not matter. The screenshots are taken >>> with Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 and I saw the same thing in LibreOffice >>> 3.5, 3.6 and 4.0. I think this also happened with earlier LibreOffice >>> versions, like 3.4 and 3.3. I didn't use OpenOffice since 3.2 (except >>> 3.4.1, which I use these days), and I don't even remember what it >>> looked like. >>> >>> Here's a screenshot with Apache OpenOffice Calc 3.4.1. I added some >>> arrows pointing at the problem areas: >>> http://ubuntuone.com/0wvqcaN38PC5835t4uJVPv >>> >>> The worst thing is when I try to use the Basic IDE, take a look at >>> this. Very hard to write and edit code when it looks like this: >>> http://ubuntuone.com/4HRPQMpblZT97UxHq5ggzO >>> >>> My operating system is Ubuntu 12.04 and the more stuff I run at the >>> same time, the worse will it look. >>> >>> My graphics card is the nVidia GeForce Go 7300, which is blacklisted >>> for use with the Unity 3D desktop, so that may be what's causing this >>> problem, but still it ONLY happens to LibreOffice and OpenOffice. >>> >>> One thought that I have is that LibreOffice and OpenOffice are not GTK >>> applications (I think – are they?), but on the other hand, neither is >>> my web browser (Opera), and I don't have these problems with it. >>> >>> Both LibreOffice and OpenOffice.org were installed with the official >>> deb files. The LibreOffice version that came with Ubuntu 12.04 was >>> carefully removed before installing what I have now. >>> >>> Thoughts? Anyone else saw this? >>> >>> Packard Bell Easy Note MX66 laptop, made in November 2006. >>> 2.0 GiB RAM, Genuine Intel® CPU T2050 @ 1.60GHz × 2. >>> >>> Ubuntu 12.04 LTS (32 bits) >>> Kernel: Linux 3.2.0-41-generic-pae >>> >>> nVIDIA Driver Version: 304.88 >>> >> >> -- >> Andrew Pitonyak >> My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt >> Info: http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php >> > >-- >To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org >Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ >All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted > > >