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Hi.
I have a mixture of a discussion but also a proposal I would like to
make. I ended up here after doing a fair share of search engine digging,
not finding a good solution for the initial problem. Apparently, about
12 years ago, there started to be demand for what I'm going to discuss,
according to old Open Office forum posts I found in the process.

Problem part A:
As far as I can understand the software, there is not an easy structure
to user-friendly switch color themes in Open Office Writer (I haven't
looked at other programs, but it could be true for them as well).
Yes, there is one solution to switch colors.
You go... What was it? Edit, Settings? No, maybe View... Extras...
Appearance? No, not either. The correct way is
Extras>Settings>OpenOffice>Appearance (as an example, I'm myself still
confused about whether that now applies to all programs under the Open
Office wing, or just Writer??).
You see the first problem?
I as a user/dig my way through the whole interface/, potentially even
missing the settings for program appearance. This is not only very
difficult to find, it leads to *frustration*.
What I've been experiencing through the years of usage is the same
problem over and over again. We do have functions, but the amount of
clicks required to find them, is inefficient and brain-wrecking.
An analogy: Some updates ago, the 3D Software Blender moved their "User
Preferences" window from "Files" to "Edit". Why? It's more logical, it's
convenient and easy to find by one click, containing everything you need
in one single window with a couple of tabs. Blender also lets you choose
your "Theme" on first startup and later in the preferences and add new
themes as you please.

Which leads me to problem part B:
There are people who do have issues with bright light screens. Websites
these days update to "Dark Mode".
I could imagine following scenario: A person who needs accessibility
aids like a customized dark theme, would they even manage to find the
according settings to change the program appearance to their needs?
Would a person who is already puzzled by where to even save their file
or how to print find such an option?
Maybe, if it were easier to find, AND what I think of an improvement: If
there were well-designed pre-installed examplary color themes one could
just switch by clicking a button. There is a list of color schemes (for
me, there is only the OpenOffice light theme in the list!), but again,
until a user finds this option, they might have given up on it already.
Users are not designers. They might struggle with color values, how
light or dark the font color should be displayed and also, they might
worry that changing these colors might make their printer switch colors
as well. (I saw somebody in a forum stating you should revert appearance
before printing, they were likely scared of exactly that!). The concept
of a "Dark Theme" or "Dark Mode" is not so easy for them to understand
when they get a long, long list of colors they are to change themselves.
So what to do to improve? Instead, let the user have a standard one they
could switch by clicking one button a light theme button and a dark
theme button with an icon to determine what's going on.
VoilĂ . We have an accessible, easy system to make these changes. Just
like clicking a different theme in a PowerPoint presentation. And if
there is none the user likes, they can add a new one and have a new
button or a list for their themes, as well, selecting each color
individually just like you can do right now in version 4.1.7.

Now there's one extra point to the mix. We have users who are using
OpenOffice under Linux. I read that for some reason there is a Dark
Mode, but I don't understand the details at all. I cannot speak for
anybody using that OS, so this here is all from a Windows perspective. I
though do believe that a standardized option to do this throughout each
program *regardless* of OS or the like, would make things so much easier
for everybody.

In my own POV there are enough reasons to overhaul this part of the
system. Possibly, there are menu parts that could be put in one large
window containing everything you might need. The problem when you look
at your own project for too long is that you cannot see what your users
see anymore. You get "designer-blind" as some call that phenomenon. You
forget about those who don't have the structure in mind that you had,
building this. They just look at it and try to figure out how to solve
their problem. I grew up as one of those people, so I know the struggle
firsthand. And according to my research, people tried achieving this
before. We have 2022 now. I believe this is possible.

Still, I would love to hear other voices out there. Any concerns? Are
there technical reasons for this specific situation we find ourselves
in? I might not know. Do enlighten me. Maybe just nobody actually voiced
it before?

Either way, thanks for reading to anybody out there who recieves this. I
hope I did this first E-Mail to the list correctly. I'm apologizing if I
didn't. I'm just human, after all.

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