I never had to insert a media file as an Object to embed it before -- which is moot since it still doesn't work for me and all I get is a big Plug-in icon pasted in my doc.

The easiest way to check out whether your document's mov. or animated GIF is embedded or not is to check out the file size; on the Mac, check the Info of a document's icon. It should _at least_ be as large as the original mov. or GIF you inserted. I have a 4meg document with an 4meg animated GIF I made three years ago (when it was easy using Insert Movie and Sound, and before you could embed mov. formats) in Mac OOos). I tried to insert/embed the same mov. that I've on file in a new doc made in OOo 3.1 under Tiger (same happens with 2.0 under Panther too) and the resultant doc file size is a puny 8kb -- obviously a linked media file. You email it to someone and they open it and they get no show. I'd go back to my earlier OOo to do all this if I only recalled which OOo version I used back then. It's crazy. I don't know whether newer versions of Java are inhibiting embedding or not, but its sure not like the old days!

Jim



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