unsubscribe. -----Original Message----- >From: Johnny Andersson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: May 5, 2006 11:30 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [users] Why is there a difference between text beavior in Writer >vs in Text boxes in Writer, Calc, Draw etc? > >I was just there and it answered some of my questions, but not all of them. > >The file hyph_sv_SE.dic contains a lot of lines, one of them looks like >this: >.d^^e4r3 > >However, I couldn't find an explanation anywhere what this means. The only >help I could get at http://lingucomponent.openoffice.org/hyphenator.html >seemed to be how to port the TeX hyphenation dictionary to ALTLinux >hyphenation format. That was not what I wanted to do. I don't even know >what the TeX hyphenation dictionary is. All I want to do, is the following: > >When I have finished writing something, I might find some words that are >not hyphenated correctly, or maybe they are not hyphenated at all. This >happens all the time, at least when writing in Swedish (which I do maybe >99 times out of 100). Many years ago, when I used Word 97 (which came with >my PC), I could highlight a word and hyphenate it manually. I could then >decidxe where to hyphenate the word. Let's say that the word was >"maskinkomponenter", then a dialog showed the word like this: >"ma-skin-kom-po-nen-ter" >Now, I could move the cursor to any of the "-" (except those that made the >first part of the word too long to fit on the line). Then I clicked OK and >the word was manually hyphenated, at least as far as I remember. > >Now, there is a word, among many others, that doesn't seem to be >hyphenated at all with Open Office, so I guess that the hyph_sv_SE.dic is >not 100% complete. So every time a word shows up that isn't hyphenated, I >would like to tell the system how to do it, so it remembers it next time. >In this case I am talking about the word "tvättställ". The hyphenation >dictionary doesn't seem to know that this word is a combination of the two >words "tvätt" and "ställ", which means that they can be separated by a >"-", so in this case it's natural to split them when hyphenating, like >this: > >Blah blah blah tvätt- >ställ blah blah... > >When writing in Writer, I can do some of this manually. If I see a word >that I think SHOULD have been hyphenated, I can place the cursor where I >want it to split, then press Ctrl+-. If there is room for the first part >of the word on the line above it, it will then be moved there. That's ok >for me, I could actually work that way, but WHY does this not work in text >boxes (or text frames or whatever you call them, you know, when creating a >rectangle and then write text in it, and set it to wrap and blah blah >blah)? Why can't writing text work exactly the same no matter where I >write it? > >I even tried to first write the text in Writer (not in a text box) and >then copy and paste it to a text box, but the only thing that happened was >that all my ctrl+- were changed to just "-". So if I add a word somewhere, >the "-" will still be there, wether the word is hyphenated or not. > > > >Sorry for being such a pain in the... well, you know. > >Johnny > > > > >Den 2006-05-05 15:33:18 skrev G. Roderick Singleton ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> On Fri, 2006-05-05 at 14:07 +0200, Johnny Andersson wrote: >>> Open Office 1.1.5 >>> Windows 98 (Build 1998) >>> >>> It seems like the soft "-" (Ctrl+-) does not work in text boxes. How do >>> I >>> get around this? I really need it! >>> >>> I can think of at least one "workaround", and that would be if it was >>> possible to edit the hyphenation dictionary or whatever it is called >>> (sorry for my really bad English), but I couldn't find a way to do this. >>> >>> The reason I write this is that I was entering some text in a rectangle >>> in >>> OOo Draw (I am going to do a lot of graphical stuff later in that file, >>> that's why I use Draw for this particular job) and then I found that I >>> needed to use the Tools -> Hyphenate, so I did. Now I found that a >>> particular word was not hyphenated (I write in Swedish), but I think it >>> should. So I thouoght that I could just place the cursor in that word >>> and >>> press Ctrl+- to insert an unvisible "-", but that didn't work! It works >>> when I write normal text in Writer and since I think that OOP is used >>> when >>> programming OpenOffice I think it's a bit strange that the same tools >>> show >>> up differently in differnt applications. I think that as long as I write >>> text, it should not matter WHERE I do it. As plain Writer text or in >>> text >>> boxes, it should act the same all the time. >>> >>> So, what I really want to ask is this: >>> 1. Is there a workaround for this problem in 1.1.5? >>> 2. Can I edit the hyph_sv_SE.dic file? If yes, how? >>> 3. I read something about that I could use "=" in the dictionary to tell >>> the hyphenator where to hyphenate, so I tried it on one word. I replaced >>> the word "popmusikproducent" by "pop=mu=sik=pro=du=cent". This seems to >>> work, BUT now the word "popmusikproducent" are shown as wrong spelled..! >>> So, do I need both lines in the dictionary? >>> 4. Let's say that I write some text and the hyphenator is turned on. >>> When >>> I read it I find that a word is NOT hyphenated when it should. What is >>> the >>> easiest way to make it do so AND make it remember this for the future? I >>> am still talking about entering text into rectangles and other kinds of >>> text boxes. >>> >>> Using Open Office 2.0 is not an option; 1.1.5 is slow enough for me on >>> my >>> old PC. I have tried 2.0 so I am not guessing here. It was a real pain. >>> >>> >> >> As I said in my reply to you on dev, check out >> http://lingucomponent.openoffice.org/ for details on hyphenation et >> cetera. > > > >-- >Johnny > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
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