Harold: For the ordinary user, configuring Thunderbird is beyond their capabilities. We make assumptions and some of them are wrong. If you want to look at the headers (which is what I stated), you have to look at the full header data. Of course, you can set up a filter to pop those messages into a secondary mail box and look at them. It is possible to filter on any of the 'hidden' header data. However, I like to thread messages and this is broken if I use two different mailboxes.
As to comment 3, that is a shortcoming of Outlook Express. I don't use it (I use Thunderbird at home the full LookOut program at work), and probably never will, since Microsoft does not have a version for the Mac and I only use my WindowsXP system for testing and development off of the 'net. BTW, I took this technical discussion off of the list as it has nothing to do with addressing User issues but is more a my toy is better than your toy message. James McKenzie -----Original Message----- >From: Harold Fuchs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Jan 28, 2007 4:08 AM >To: users@openoffice.org >Subject: Re: [users] Why do some users get CC:ed (or The best way to answer >questions on this list) > >On Sunday, January 28, 2007 4:18 AM [GMT+1=CET], >James Mckenzie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ><snip> >>> Note 1 : So how do I know if someone is not subscribed ? >>> That is easy : there is a field in every email on this list called >>> "Delivered-to". [trimming applied] >> >> For folks using Thunderbird mail, the delivered to: lines usually do >> not show up. This means reading the entire header. If you are in >> doubt that someone is subscribed, >> CC them. They will get two copies of your message and should ask why >> that happened. Also, it is NOT necessary to CC folks if that are >> sending through the GMANE news<-> mail interface nor through Google >> Groups. If you look at the headers of a message from the former you >> will see SEA.GMANE.ORG in the header. I don't know how >> to identify Google Groups messages. ><snip> > >Sorry but part of this is incomplete and part of it is wrong. > >1. There is *always* at least one "Delivered -To:" header. This one: >"Delivered-To: mailing list users@openoffice.org". The poster is >*un*subscribed if and only if this one appears as well: "Delivered-To: >moderator for users@openoffice.org". > >2. Using Thunderbird it is easily possible to set up a filter on that second >header which, for example, colours the item red in the inbox if it is >present, by assigning it to one of the in-built categories. Thus Thunderbird >users have a trivial method of determining if the message is from an >unsubscribed poster. I know that you can't filter on this header in Outlook >Express. I don't know about other mail readers. > >3. I use Outlook Express 6 (OE). The following comments apply to it; I can't >speak for other news readers. When I use OE to follow this list in the Gmane >news group then: >a) If I do Reply Group to a message from an unsubscribed poster then, even >if I explicitly include the poster's e-mail address in the To: or Cc: list, >the poster does *not* see my reply. >b) If I do Reply (which is different) to that same message then the >unsubscribed poster sees my reply if and only if I explicitly include >his/her e-mail address in the To: or Cc: list. >I do not know if these comments apply to the Google Groups as I have never >tried them for this list. > >I do not know how and when the word "[moderated]" is put into the subject >line of some messages. Unfortunately, the presence/absence of this word is >*not* a reliable guide to the status of the poster. It would be a real >service if it could be made reliable. Mr/Ms Moderator, can you hear me ??? > >Harold Fuchs >London, England > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
