NoOp a écrit :
On 04/29/2007 03:42 AM, Marc Paré wrote:
NoOp a écrit :
On 04/28/2007 12:30 PM, Marc Paré wrote:
I guess the idea was to get our IT department to recognize that a filter
for odt files is now a necessary thing and seeing that OpenOffice fills
in the gap from the point of view of productivity as well as price that
it could be considered as a replacement for MSOffice. Our budgets are
constantly under pressure. I also promote the suite at school and
encourage the students avoid using pirated software which is why so many
of our students are using OpenOffice at home. They are also aware that
they can also save in .doc/ppt etc formats, but if they could they would
save in odt and not worry about the file format changes.
I think I will do as Manfred suggested and try to direct IT to the
daVinci page.
Marc
And, in addition to OOo, you might want to direct the schools to Sun's
StarOffice site; they can obtain a license and training for free. SW is
fully compatible with OOo & in fact OOo came from StarOffice.
http://www.sun.com/software/star/staroffice/index.jsp
http://www.sun.com/software/star/staroffice/education.jsp
http://www.sun.com/products-n-solutions/edu/solutions/staroffice.html
Free training tutorials & guides are here:
http://www.sun.com/aboutsun/comm_invest/giving/so8/
Note: to OOo beginners - the above guides are also suitable and useful
for OOo.
That combined with OOo & I'd say that your schools can save a
considerable amount in their annual budgets.
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Thanks for the note and the links. The Ontario Ministry of Education
(Canada) has actually licensed the use of StarOffice for all of its
schools but very few boards in the province have installed the suite.
Change happens slowly. I personally would prefer to promote the OOo
rather than StarOffice as the students where I teach can mostly not
afford to purchase any software. OOo allows them to work at the same
level as their richer counterparts.
Perhaps you failed to read:
http://www.sun.com/products-n-solutions/edu/solutions/staroffice.html
<quote>
StarOffice 8 Office Suite - No-Cost Licensing For Education and Research
The StarOffice 8 office suite is the smart choice for education and
research institutions. It allows you to save money, pick your platform
and work smarter. StarOffice 8 is a feature-rich, full-function
productivity suite that includes powerful and integrated word
processing, spreadsheet, presentation, drawing and database
capabilities. As part of Sun's ongoing commitment to education, Sun
Microsystems provides licenses for StarOffice 8 at no-cost to education
and research institutions. StarOffice 8 delivers exceptional
cross-platform compatibility with enhanced support for the Solaris
Operating Environment, Linux, and Microsoft Windows, and is designed to
suit all your academic and administrative needs.
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.
How to Get StarOffice 8 - Individuals
If you are a student, researcher, staff, or faculty member you can
download StarOffice 8 for free from Sun's Software Download Center.
Login into the Sun Software Download Center by using your user name and
password. If you do not have a user name or password for the Sun
Software Download Center please register.
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</quote>
It's _free_. Same as OOo. They are for the most part 99% compatible - SO
provides some added bundled templates, it slower to implement changes
(consider it a Long-Term-Support/LTS of OOo for obvious support
reasons), and a few extra filters. Basically they are the same product.
Support can be had for somethnng like USD$85 per month, free web support
etc., and a reasonable per call charge if you can't figure it out over
the web or do not have a monthly support contract:
http://www.sun.com/products-n-solutions/edu/solutions/staroffice/support.html
So there are some advantages (I think) or going the SO route rather than
the OOo route. But either way you're much better off (financially and
Although I do understand that OOo
came from StarOffice originally but I think the reverse is truer today
where StarOffice now gets all of its code from OOo development (except
for the proprietary code it includes).
I don't know about that. I do know that Sun is *very* active in the OOo
code development. Sun also encourages educational institutions, students
et al to participate in the OOo development:
<quote>
StarOffice Development: OpenOffice.org
Students, faculty and staff can access the StarOffice source code and
help in the development of the next generation of StarOffice by becoming
part of the OpenOffice.org community of developers. OpenOffice.org is
the leading open-source project developing the most advanced
multi-lingual and multi-platform office suite. It provides the base code
for StarOffice and offers users a familiar work environment that can be
customized to any user's needs and preferences.
</quote>
So encourage the Ontario Ministry of Education to start implementing
today. And let your students know that they can download and use SO for
free, same as OOo. The only key advantage to SO v OOo is that they can
then also take advantage of the Sun support (free via the web) and that
the IT folks may appreciate having everyone on the same version so that
they don't have to sort through OOo version xyz vs SO version zyx.
Either way the OME, schools, staff, and students win.
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Thanks for the note. I will make sure that the students are well aware
of the availability of both suites (OpenOffice and StarOffice).
I think the only way the Ministry of Education or IT departments will
change their view on support for OpenOffice (StarOffice) is when the
user base demand for support for the file format .odt has grown to the
point where it can no longer be ignored (which is the case at my
school). One school may not sway our IT yet but by promoting anti-piracy
practises at schools as well as making students and staff that
OpenOffice is available for free more schools may sway their respective
boards.
Marc
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