Greetings,

Opps, that last email had a number of typos so I'm resending the 
corrected/updated info:

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Just wanted to mention that update my contributed precreated OS Templates for:

CentOS 4, 5 i386/x86_64

centos-4-i386-default-4.7-20090117.tar.gz   17-Jan-2009 15:35  115M
centos-4-i386-minimal-4.7-20090117.tar.gz   17-Jan-2009 15:37   95M
centos-4-x86_64-default-4.7-20090117.tar.gz 17-Jan-2009 15:40  122M
centos-4-x86_64-minimal-4.7-20090117.tar.gz 17-Jan-2009 15:42  100M
centos-5-i386-default-5.2-20090117.tar.gz   17-Jan-2009 15:45  125M
centos-5-i386-minimal-5.2-20090117.tar.gz   17-Jan-2009 15:48  102M
centos-5-x86_64-default-5.2-20090117.tar.gz 17-Jan-2009 15:51  130M
centos-5-x86_64-minimal-5.2-20090117.tar.gz 17-Jan-2009 15:53  113M

Fedora 9, 10 i386/x86_64

fedora-9-i386-default-20090203.tar.gz       03-Feb-2009 13:54  140M
fedora-9-i386-minimal-20090203.tar.gz       03-Feb-2009 13:57  118M
fedora-9-x86_64-default-20090203.tar.gz     03-Feb-2009 14:02  147M
fedora-9-x86_64-minimal-20090203.tar.gz     03-Feb-2009 14:06  137M
fedora-10-i386-default-20090203.tar.gz      03-Feb-2009 13:45  149M
fedora-10-x86_64-default-20090203.tar.gz    03-Feb-2009 13:50  170M

I re-based them all on the newer "official" OS Templates that Kir posted last 
month.  The new official OS Templates have udev installed and work well no 
matter what additional software you install.  Older templates would often break 
if udev got installed.  That is no longer the case.

How do my contributed OS Templates differ from the "official" ones:

1) I removed all of the samba packages.  Samba is huge and uses up a lot of 
disk space and the vast majority of users won't use it.  If samba is wanted, it 
can easily be installed

2) httpd's config has been altered from the "official" template to be more like 
the distro's default httpd.conf.  The "official" OS template only starts up 1 
httpd process.

3) I turned off some services by default that I thought most users wouldn't 
use.  They can easily be turned back on if desired.  They include saslauthd and 
messagebus.

4) They are updated as of the date they were created

5) The x86_64 OS Templates have had all i386/i686 packages removed... which 
provides quite a bit of space savings.

6) I created minimal OS Templates just by removing all packages it'd let me 
remove without taking out everything.  I think in the future I'll discontinue 
the minimal OS Templates unless people say they want them.  It is easy enough 
to remove unwanted software from the default OS Templates

7) There isn't an official Fedora 10 OS Template so I made containers from the 
Fedora 9 i386/x86_64 default OS Templates and upgraded them.  This actually 
worked very well and I didn't run into any issues.

I will try and keep those OS Templates updated on a monthly basis.

Easy GUI Containers!
====================

Because of the way the new official OS Templates are built it is very easy now 
to create a GUI container.  What I mean by "GUI" is... it is no longer a chore 
to install all of the desktop environments/managers and GUI apps into the 
containers.  In the past, a few package manager tricks had to be done to keep 
udev from breaking the container but that is no longer the case.

As a test I created a Fedora 10 i386 container.  Then I did "yum grouplist > 
groups".  Then I edited the groups file to remove Virtualization, Input 
Methods, Fedora Packager, and Clustering... I put quotes around multi-word 
group names... and I put everything on one line with "yum groupinstall " in 
front of it... and chmod 755'ed the file.  Then I ran it to install all of the 
groups.  It ended up being about 1,450 packages and around 2GB worth of package 
downloads... but after it was all over I created a user, setup vncserver to 
start KDE... and then connected as the user with vncviewer.  I easily ran KDE 
4.1.4, konsole, Firefox, OpenOffice.org Writer, OOo Calc, OOc Impress, GIMP, 
Inkscape, and Eclipse in about 850MB of RAM... although as more files are 
loaded, I'm sure the memory usage could creep right up there like a physical 
machine.

Anyway, creating GUI OS Templates is fairly easy with CentOS 4 and 5, and 
Fedora 9 and 10... for anyone who wants a desktop type container.

TYL,
-- 
Scott Dowdle
704 Church Street
Belgrade, MT 59714
(406)388-0827 [home]
(406)994-3931 [work]
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