Hi all, +1 for Alon's summary - first preference to remain as-is, second pyar.
In addition: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nicholas Kesick" <cybertimber2...@hotmail.com> To: "oVirt Mailing List" <users@ovirt.org>, "arch" <a...@ovirt.org>, "engine-devel" <engine-de...@ovirt.org>, "Alon Bar-Lev" <alo...@redhat.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 6, 2013 4:57:41 AM Subject: Re: [Users] [Engine-devel] [Feedback required][host-deploy] Fedora-19 misses tar at minimal setup I did some testing with Fedora 18 (waiting for the Fedora 19 dvd to finish downloading) and I think that the behavior was the same way in Fedora 18. In Fedora 18 when installing from DVD if you select “Minimal Install”, you do not get tar. Indeed. <blockquote> However, if you select “Minimal install” and “standard” under the add-on list, you *do* get tar. And if memory serves I learned the hard way in Fedora 18 that a lot of familiar commands are missing in minimal install without the standard add-on items including “ifconfig”. Yea, you can’t even easily tell what your IP address is!... unless you are used to the ip command. </blockquote> I think they are trying to educate us... and for me it partially worked :-) I have some machines on which I did not install ifconfig, and (partially) learned to use ip (after refusing to do so for perhaps 10 or so years). <blockquote> Is there any other commands that are missing on the “minimal” install that are needed? </blockquote> Needed by vdsm? They are listed as dependencies for it. Needed by me? Yes, but that's a personal preference. <blockquote> Would it be easier to mention in the install directions to use the standard add-on if selecting the minimal package set for host deployment? </blockquote> The wiki page already tells to install tar, and I think that's enough. <blockquote> Just thoughts. I also wonder if it would be possible to include tar as a dependency for the RPMs (like ovirt-engine or vdsm) so when installed using a package manager, tar would be checked for. </blockquote> This won't help in our case, as Alon explained in previous mails in this subject - these RPMs are installed by the "bundle" (a set of scripts/data files) that we are now discussing how should be made to arrive and run. Best regards, -- Didi
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