On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 1:36 AM, Itamar Heim <ih...@redhat.com> wrote:

> On 10/02/2013 12:40 AM, Christian Kolquist wrote:
>
>> I am planning on testing the modify existing to become an export domain.
>>   That will only require me to copy within the isilon cluster a copy of
>> the data which only will take about 1 hour.  The plan is to do the
>> following:
>>
>> 1. Load Fedora 19 on new engine server and install the engine, add new
>> storage domain shares and get fully up and running without adding any
>> nodes
>>
>
> just wondering - any reason you prefer fedora to .el6 (centos/rhel)?

We use Fedora on most of our systems here.  We use kickstart and puppet to
manage them and already have nearly everything ready to go with it.


>
>  2. shutdown all VM's and then remove the nodes
>> 3. shutdown engine on current server
>> 4. copy the existing storage domain to another location on the NAS and
>> share it out over NFS.
>> 5. Add nodes to new engine
>> 6. Modify the copy of the storage domain to be an export domain
>> (http://humblec.com/convert-**master-data-domain-to-export-**
>> domain-in-a-crashed-**rhevmovirt-setup/<http://humblec.com/convert-master-data-domain-to-export-domain-in-a-crashed-rhevmovirt-setup/>
>> )
>> 7. Add it in as an existing export domain on the new engine server and
>> start import of VM's (will take probably 4-6 hours or maybe longer,
>> total storage is ~1TB of data)
>>
>> Are there any further suggestions to this?  If this plan fails then I
>> will be able to revert back to the original engine server and domain.
>>
>
> sounds good to me
>
>
>> Christian
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 10:48 AM, Itamar Heim <ih...@redhat.com
>> <mailto:ih...@redhat.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     On 10/01/2013 06:39 PM, Christian Kolquist wrote:
>>
>>         We have a NFS storage cluster (Isilon) for the domain.
>>
>>         The main question: is there a way to bring in an existing
>>         storage domain
>>         to a new engine without exporting it then importing it?  This
>>         would be
>>         good for not just upgrades but also disaster recovery as well.
>>
>>
>>
>>     yes, importing an existing data domain is a high priority for us for
>>     next version as the issue was raised several times by community users.
>>
>>     for 3.3, there a few options (the first one is the cleanest)
>>     1. "save the export part"
>>     - stop using the domain in 3.1
>>     - change its meta data to that of an export domain
>>     - import it as an existing export domain to 3.3
>>     - import the VMs
>>
>>     2. "re-create the VMs / import disks"
>>     - stop using the domain in 3.1
>>     - create a new (empty) domain in 3.3
>>     - move all disks to the new domain (assuming you create the new nfs
>>        export in a way allowing you to move, not copy, from the old
>> export)
>>     - use the register disk api to add all disks
>>     - create VMs and associate the disks to them
>>
>>     yes, this one requires to document first which disk is for which VM.
>>     i think someone scripted something around this option.
>>
>>     if your disks have snapshots, this may become too complex.
>>
>>     3. re-create the VMs and override their disks.
>>     this was suggested several times in the past, but if you have
>>     snapshots, not relevant.
>>
>>
>>
>>         On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 8:24 AM, Itamar Heim <ih...@redhat.com
>>         <mailto:ih...@redhat.com>
>>         <mailto:ih...@redhat.com <mailto:ih...@redhat.com>>> wrote:
>>
>>              On 09/30/2013 04:55 PM, Christian Kolquist wrote:
>>
>>                  So, after many frustrating weekends of trying to
>>         upgrade ovirt
>>                  from 3.1,
>>                  I have come to the conclustion that it would just be
>>         best to
>>                  export all
>>                  of our VM's and Import them once I have redone the entire
>>                  installation
>>                  with FC19 and ovirt 3.3.  Is there a way to export the
>>         entire domain
>>                  easily? Or to bring the entire domain into a new
>>         install of the
>>                  engine?
>>
>>                  Exporting a single VM takes a very long while.  It
>>         would take a
>>                  couple
>>                  of days to export all of our VM's (33 total vm's using
>>         1.017 TB
>>                  of data)
>>                  and then reimport them using the normal means of
>>         exporting the
>>                  machines
>>                  off then on to the export domain, load the new engine
>>         server
>>                  then import
>>                  them all back in.
>>
>>
>>                  Any tips or tricks would be welcome.
>>
>>
>>              do you have a single data domain in the DC?
>>              is it nfs or something else?
>>
>>
>>
>>                  Christian
>>
>>
>>                  FYI, I ran into just about every single bug that people
>>         had when
>>                  upgrading from 3.1 to 3.2 and a few more.  I can't
>>         spend any
>>                  more time
>>                  troubleshooting the upgrade process.  If we can't do the
>>                  export->import
>>                  easily or migrate the current storage domain we will
>>         probably
>>                  have to
>>                  get rid of ovirt and move to another solution.
>>
>>
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