Could you explain further why does the host need to do any routing?

Assaf Muller, Cloud Networking Engineer 
Red Hat 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Kenigsberg" <dan...@redhat.com>
To: "Peter Styk" <polf...@gmail.com>, amul...@redhat.com
Cc: users@ovirt.org
Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2014 1:23:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Users] Networking. Hosted Setup. All in One Host. Hetzner

On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 11:51:25PM +0000, Peter Styk wrote:
> Greetings,
> 
> I'm writing here as to share some of my findings about hosting with
> Hetzner. All in one setups on single remote host can be tricky. Provider
> mounted an extra /29 subnet to the main host but none is routed by default
> and host has to become router itself. At the same time single mistake in
> bridging configuration and lost access results in need for re-bootstrap.
> It's still tempting to try and with many trials I eventually got to see
> guests talking to the net.
> 
> Scenario 1: Working. Package bridge-utils, oVirt engine, setup bridge,
> VDSM, add host to engine, add routing to host routing table. Networking by
> trial and error. Still something is not right. Occasionally on ping out I'm
> getting "Redirect Host (New nexthop" messages.
> http://styk.tv/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/oVirtHosted1_almost_working.png

Unfortunately, I fail to understand what can be hampering your routing
there. Assaf, do you have a guess?

Which version of ovirt have you been using? Now, with source-routing
implemented into ovirt-3.3, there is a danger in setting your own
content into route-<netname>, as it would be overwritten if <netname> is
reconfigured via Engine.

> 
> Scenario 2: Dreaming. Private network with private router/dhcp/nat. Private
> 10.0.0.0/24 network. No problems with routing as gateway 10.0.0.1 would be
> on the same subnet. Thought of using pfSense but can't seem to bring up an
> instance with two network cards on two different networks. I thought this
> would be easy.
> Go to Networks, click create new network, type private, save
> ok. then go to new instance. point at iso, attach two network cards. save
> ok. Launch "Host did not satisfy internal filter Network" No idea what that
> is. Maybe I don't understand how this works.

I do not understand where having an instance with two nics fail. Is the
"Host did not satisfy internal filter Network" message coming from
Hetzner management, or oVirt's?

> I even tried removing
> ovirtmgmt network and leaving private network by itself. Tried with all 3
> network card types (rtl8139/e1000/VirtIO)
> http://styk.tv/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/oVirtHosted2_preferred.png

Could you explain how you configured your provate network? In my
experience, your easiest option is to define a dummy interface
    ip link add name dummy_private type dummy
and set up a normal oVirt network on top of it, as if it were a true
nic.

> 
> Either way if you have a minute or two please take a look at both attached
> diagrams. Deliberately making it difficult by forcing all elements on
> single box in hosted environment.
> 
> Maybe there is a way to have this all installed with Neutron or vSwitch on
> the same box or is that pushing it?
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