I think we now have enough for a proper ticket. I will create one latter today. also since I have RHEV support for my production instances I will also create a matching case with Red Hat.
On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 11:27 AM, Paul Robert Marino <prmari...@gmail.com> wrote: > Ok > I dug in a little further it looks like them memberof plugin in 389 > server is making them lowercase which from an LDAP and or Posix > perspective is not a problem but this seems to be the root cause of > the issue of the difference. > while this behavior is strange it is not invalid because DN's are case > insensitive. > > The easiest way to fix this is to change the query of the group from > the ad_groups table to an ilike. The potential problem here is it > conflicts with SAM in windows where group names are case sensitive. > This is definitely a conflict in design between AD and LDAP's core design. > Interestingly I can add roles to the group and there is no problem it > sets it correctly so somewhere else in the code an ilike is being uses > to query the groups table. > > > On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 11:05 AM, Paul Robert Marino > <prmari...@gmail.com> wrote: >> I found why the group_ids field is wrong >> >> If you look at the ad_groups table then mane for the group is "<domain >> here>/Groups/sysadmin" however if you look at the groups field in the >> users table it says "<domain here>/groups/sysadmin" >> I tried updating the name field in the ad_groups table to match >> "<domain here>/groups/sysadmin" then removed and added a user now the >> if for that group in the group_ids field is being set correctly. >> >> This is at least a usable workaround for now. now we need to find the >> root cause. >> >> >> On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Paul Robert Marino >> <prmari...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> confirmed that does seem to be the cause I updated the group_ids field >>> of a user to the appropriate Id's from ad_groups and it fixed that >>> user. >>> in answer to your question "Did you first add the goup, and then added >>> users (that belong to a group) either by adding users, or by adding a >>> permission?" Ive tried it ever different way I can think of the >>> results are always the same. >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 9:46 AM, Yair Zaslavsky <yzasl...@redhat.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Paul Robert Marino" <prmari...@gmail.com> >>>>> To: "Yair Zaslavsky" <yzasl...@redhat.com> >>>>> Cc: "Itamar Heim" <ih...@redhat.com>, users@ovirt.org >>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2014 4:33:30 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] ovirt with 389 server inactive groups >>>>> >>>>> here are the results of the queries you asked for >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> group_ids >>>>> >>>>> | >>>>> >>>>> groups >>>>> >>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+------------- >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> ---- >>>>> >>>>> 00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000,00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000,00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000,00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000,00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000,00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000 >>>>> | <domain here>/groups/sysadmin,<domain here>/groups/pmarino,<domain >>>>> here>/groups/pd managers,<domain here>/groups/qa managers,<domain >>>>> here>/groups/accounting managers,<domain here>/directory administrat >>>>> ors >>>>> (1 row) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> engine=# select id, name from ad_groups; >>>>> id | name >>>>> --------------------------------------+--------------------------------------- >>>>> eee00000-0000-0000-0000-123456789eee | Everyone >>>>> 2a8a8401-fc9e-11e3-8742-861538ea406a | <domain here>/Groups/sysadmin >>>>> (2 rows) >>>> >>>> It does look that there is something wrong in the association of users to >>>> their group IDS. >>>> Just to make sure I'm not missing anything - >>>> Did you first add the goup, and then added users (that belong to a group) >>>> either by adding users, or by adding a permission? >>>> >>>> Yair >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 10:49 PM, Yair Zaslavsky <yzasl...@redhat.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> >> From: "Paul Robert Marino" <prmari...@gmail.com> >>>>> >> To: "Yair Zaslavsky" <yzasl...@redhat.com> >>>>> >> Cc: "Itamar Heim" <ih...@redhat.com>, users@ovirt.org >>>>> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2014 11:47:40 PM >>>>> >> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] ovirt with 389 server inactive groups >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Ok so before I open a bug ticket I want to confirm I'm not doing any >>>>> >> thing wrong here. >>>>> >> I upgraded to 3.4 >>>>> >> now it says "Active: false " on LDAP groups. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Again I tried to add the sysadmin group from the directory server and >>>>> >> set the power user and super user roles on the group >>>>> >> it shows up as "<domain name>/Groups/sysadmin" >>>>> >> I adder the permisions by clicking on the configure link on the top of >>>>> >> the screen and set them in the "System Permissions" tab >>>>> > >>>>> > Sounds good so far. >>>>> > I assume also you see the permissiosn in the permissions sub tab when >>>>> > you >>>>> > click the group. >>>>> > >>>>> >> >>>>> >> I added a user (pmarino) to the system which shows in the "Directory >>>>> >> Group" tab shows "sysadmin groups <domian name>" among others >>>>> >> however it only shows in the Permissions tab the permissions inherited >>>>> >> by "Everyone" it does not show any permissions inherited by the >>>>> >> sysadmin group. >>>>> > >>>>> > This is not good - I mean, should have worked. >>>>> > >>>>> >> >>>>> >> just to prove it didnt work I logged out and attempted to log back in >>>>> >> as the user (pmarino) it wouldn't let me log in >>>>> >> >>>>> >> I logged back in as the internal admin user then I added the SuperUser >>>>> >> permissions directly to the pmarino account and logged back out again. >>>>> >> Now when I logged in as pmarino it gave me the access I expected. >>>>> > >>>>> > Can I please ask you to provide some database info ? >>>>> > >>>>> > It will be awesome if you can provide the following SQL queries results >>>>> > - >>>>> > >>>>> > select group_ids, groups from users where username ilike '%pmarino%'; >>>>> > >>>>> > In addition, please perform - select id, name from ad_groups; >>>>> > >>>>> > Thanks for your help. >>>>> > >>>>> > P.S - As far as I understand the two bugs mentioend by Itamar (I mean, >>>>> > the >>>>> > solution to the bugs) should have fixed your issue as well. >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Here is the relevant portion of the engine log >>>>> >> " >>>>> >> 2014-08-13 16:00:38,801 INFO >>>>> >> [org.ovirt.engine.core.bll.AddGroupCommand] (ajp-/127.0.0.1:8702-5) >>>>> >> [1e7fa420] Running command: AddGroupCommand internal: false. Entities >>>>> >> affected : ID: aaa00000-0000-0000-0000-123456789aaa Type: System >>>>> >> 2014-08-13 16:00:38,813 INFO >>>>> >> [org.ovirt.engine.core.dal.dbbroker.auditloghandling.AuditLogDirector] >>>>> >> (ajp-/127.0.0.1:8702-5) [1e7fa420] Correlation ID: 1e7fa420, Call >>>>> >> Stack: null, Custom Event ID: -1, Message: User '<domain >>>>> >> name>/Groups/sysadmin' was added successfully to the system. >>>>> >> 2014-08-13 16:09:01,352 INFO >>>>> >> [org.ovirt.engine.core.bll.AddSystemPermissionCommand] >>>>> >> (org.ovirt.thread.pool-4-thread-24) [75cab17c] Running command: >>>>> >> AddSystemPermissionCommand internal: false. Entities affected : ID: >>>>> >> aaa00000-0000-0000-0000-123456789aaa Type: System, ID: >>>>> >> aaa00000-0000-0000-0000-123456789aaa Type: System >>>>> >> 2014-08-13 16:09:01,371 INFO >>>>> >> [org.ovirt.engine.core.dal.dbbroker.auditloghandling.AuditLogDirector] >>>>> >> (org.ovirt.thread.pool-4-thread-24) [75cab17c] Correlation ID: >>>>> >> 75cab17c, Call Stack: null, Custom Event ID: -1, Message: User/Group >>>>> >> <domain name>/Groups/sysadmin was granted permission for Role >>>>> >> SuperUser on System by admin. >>>>> >> 2014-08-13 16:10:40,963 INFO >>>>> >> [org.ovirt.engine.core.bll.AddSystemPermissionCommand] >>>>> >> (org.ovirt.thread.pool-4-thread-26) [b42abcb] Running command: >>>>> >> AddSystemPermissionCommand internal: false. Entities affected : ID: >>>>> >> aaa00000-0000-0000-0000-123456789aaa Type: System, ID: >>>>> >> aaa00000-0000-0000-0000-123456789aaa Type: System >>>>> >> 2014-08-13 16:10:40,979 INFO >>>>> >> [org.ovirt.engine.core.dal.dbbroker.auditloghandling.AuditLogDirector] >>>>> >> (org.ovirt.thread.pool-4-thread-26) [b42abcb] Correlation ID: b42abcb, >>>>> >> Call Stack: null, Custom Event ID: -1, Message: User/Group <domain >>>>> >> name>/Groups/sysadmin was granted permission for Role PowerUserRole on >>>>> >> System by admin. >>>>> >> 2014-08-13 16:20:53,891 INFO >>>>> >> [org.ovirt.engine.core.bll.AddUserCommand] (ajp-/127.0.0.1:8702-4) >>>>> >> [58e00be1] Running command: AddUserCommand internal: false. Entities >>>>> >> affected : ID: aaa00000-0000-0000-0000-123456789aaa Type: System >>>>> >> 2014-08-13 16:20:53,919 INFO >>>>> >> [org.ovirt.engine.core.dal.dbbroker.auditloghandling.AuditLogDirector] >>>>> >> (ajp-/127.0.0.1:8702-4) [58e00be1] Correlation ID: 58e00be1, Call >>>>> >> Stack: null, Custom Event ID: -1, Message: User 'pmarino' was added >>>>> >> successfully to the system. >>>>> >> 2014-08-13 16:35:52,202 INFO >>>>> >> [org.ovirt.engine.core.dal.dbbroker.auditloghandling.AuditLogDirector] >>>>> >> (ajp-/127.0.0.1:8702-10) Correlation ID: null, Call Stack: null, >>>>> >> Custom Event ID: -1, Message: User pmarino failed to log in. >>>>> >> 2014-08-13 16:35:52,202 WARN >>>>> >> [org.ovirt.engine.core.bll.LoginAdminUserCommand] >>>>> >> (ajp-/127.0.0.1:8702-10) CanDoAction of action LoginAdminUser failed. >>>>> >> Reasons:USER_NOT_AUTHORIZED_TO_PERFORM_ACTION >>>>> >> 2014-08-13 16:39:48,048 INFO >>>>> >> [org.ovirt.engine.core.bll.AddSystemPermissionCommand] >>>>> >> (org.ovirt.thread.pool-4-thread-31) [5ba3c874] Running command: >>>>> >> AddSystemPermissionCommand internal: false. Entities affected : ID: >>>>> >> aaa00000-0000-0000-0000-123456789aaa Type: System >>>>> >> 2014-08-13 16:39:48,069 INFO >>>>> >> [org.ovirt.engine.core.dal.dbbroker.auditloghandling.AuditLogDirector] >>>>> >> (org.ovirt.thread.pool-4-thread-31) [5ba3c874] Correlation ID: >>>>> >> 5ba3c874, Call Stack: null, Custom Event ID: -1, Message: User/Group >>>>> >> pmarino was granted permission for Role SuperUser on System by admin. >>>>> >> 2014-08-13 16:40:43,357 INFO >>>>> >> [org.ovirt.engine.core.dal.dbbroker.auditloghandling.AuditLogDirector] >>>>> >> (ajp-/127.0.0.1:8702-1) Correlation ID: null, Call Stack: null, Custom >>>>> >> Event ID: -1, Message: User pmarino logged in. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> " >>>>> >> >>>>> >> On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 1:41 PM, Yair Zaslavsky <yzasl...@redhat.com> >>>>> >> wrote: >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> >> >> From: "Yair Zaslavsky" <yzasl...@redhat.com> >>>>> >> >> To: "Itamar Heim" <ih...@redhat.com> >>>>> >> >> Cc: users@ovirt.org >>>>> >> >> Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 8:13:53 PM >>>>> >> >> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] ovirt with 389 server inactive groups >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> I have checked the codebase of 3.3 - >>>>> >> >> the "active" field is used for presentation purpose only. >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > Presentation wise only - means that it is not used for our >>>>> >> > permissions >>>>> >> > calculation , for example. >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> >> Alon has addressed our plans for this in his previous comments. >>>>> >> >> I hope this clarifies more.. >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> Yair >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> >> >> > From: "Itamar Heim" <ih...@redhat.com> >>>>> >> >> > To: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alo...@redhat.com>, "Paul Robert Marino" >>>>> >> >> > <prmari...@gmail.com> >>>>> >> >> > Cc: users@ovirt.org >>>>> >> >> > Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2014 11:54:05 PM >>>>> >> >> > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] ovirt with 389 server inactive groups >>>>> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> > On 08/10/2014 10:50 PM, Alon Bar-Lev wrote: >>>>> >> >> > > >>>>> >> >> > > >>>>> >> >> > > ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> >> >> > >> From: "Paul Robert Marino" <prmari...@gmail.com> >>>>> >> >> > >> To: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alo...@redhat.com> >>>>> >> >> > >> Cc: "Maurice James" <mja...@media-node.com>, users@ovirt.org >>>>> >> >> > >> Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2014 10:43:14 PM >>>>> >> >> > >> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] ovirt with 389 server inactive >>>>> >> >> > >> groups >>>>> >> >> > >> >>>>> >> >> > >> Sorry for my delayed response to this >>>>> >> >> > >> >>>>> >> >> > >> I am using ovirt 3.3. >>>>> >> >> > >> I am using Kerberos 5, and all of the DNS requirements are in >>>>> >> >> > >> place. >>>>> >> >> > >> Finally 389 server is the upstream project for RHDS and one of >>>>> >> >> > >> the >>>>> >> >> > >> upstream projects for IPA. >>>>> >> >> > >> So I chose to set it as RHDS because its an identical match. >>>>> >> >> > >> >>>>> >> >> > >> User authentication works just fine my problem is adding roles >>>>> >> >> > >> to >>>>> >> >> > >> groups. >>>>> >> >> > >> I can assign a role to a group but the group always shows an >>>>> >> >> > >> inactive >>>>> >> >> > >> status; however if I assign a role directly to to a user it >>>>> >> >> > >> works >>>>> >> >> > >> fine. >>>>> >> >> > >> In addition if I drill down into a user it knows what groups in >>>>> >> >> > >> the >>>>> >> >> > >> 389 server the user is a member of. >>>>> >> >> > >> >>>>> >> >> > >> finally I can't see any error in the logs when adding a role >>>>> >> >> > >> to a >>>>> >> >> > >> group >>>>> >> >> > >> >>>>> >> >> > > >>>>> >> >> > > Please open a bug, I am unsure that it will be addressed before >>>>> >> >> > > 3.5, >>>>> >> >> > > as >>>>> >> >> > > we >>>>> >> >> > > have done major rework for the authentication and authorization >>>>> >> >> > > to >>>>> >> >> > > make >>>>> >> >> > > it >>>>> >> >> > > much more versatile. Even if there will be a fix it will be >>>>> >> >> > > provided >>>>> >> >> > > to >>>>> >> >> > > 3.4.z. >>>>> >> >> > > >>>>> >> >> > > It will be best if you want to test this scenario in 3.5 release >>>>> >> >> > > candidate >>>>> >> >> > > and the new ldap provider, so we can address the issue before >>>>> >> >> > > 3.5 >>>>> >> >> > > release >>>>> >> >> > > if exists. >>>>> >> >> > > >>>>> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> > could also be one of these fixed in 3.4: >>>>> >> >> > 3.4.0 - Bug 1065615 - When adding a user that belongs to a group, >>>>> >> >> > it >>>>> >> >> > does not inherit the group permissions >>>>> >> >> > 3.4.1 - Bug 1069562 - When assigning permissions to user that >>>>> >> >> > belongs >>>>> >> >> > to >>>>> >> >> > a group indirectly, it does not inherit the group permissions >>>>> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> > >> >>>>> >> >> > >> >>>>> >> >> > >> On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 2:33 AM, Alon Bar-Lev >>>>> >> >> > >> <alo...@redhat.com> >>>>> >> >> > >> wrote: >>>>> >> >> > >>> >>>>> >> >> > >>> >>>>> >> >> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> >> >> > >>>> From: "Maurice James" <mja...@media-node.com> >>>>> >> >> > >>>> To: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alo...@redhat.com> >>>>> >> >> > >>>> Cc: "Itamar Heim" <ih...@redhat.com>, users@ovirt.org >>>>> >> >> > >>>> Sent: Saturday, August 9, 2014 3:47:04 AM >>>>> >> >> > >>>> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] ovirt with 389 server inactive >>>>> >> >> > >>>> groups >>>>> >> >> > >>>> >>>>> >> >> > >>>> Does this still require the use of kerberos? Will 389-ds >>>>> >> >> > >>>> work on >>>>> >> >> > >>>> its >>>>> >> >> > >>>> own? >>>>> >> >> > >>> >>>>> >> >> > >>> In 3.5 we introduced pure ldap support[1], obsoleting the >>>>> >> >> > >>> kerberos/ldap >>>>> >> >> > >>> mix. >>>>> >> >> > >>> >>>>> >> >> > >>> It will be great to receive feedback[2]. >>>>> >> >> > >>> >>>>> >> >> > >>> 389ds is not supported directly, I think it is similar to IPA >>>>> >> >> > >>> as >>>>> >> >> > >>> it >>>>> >> >> > >>> uses >>>>> >> >> > >>> 389. Maybe I should rename the profile of ipa to 389 if it >>>>> >> >> > >>> works >>>>> >> >> > >>> properly. >>>>> >> >> > >>> >>>>> >> >> > >>> Regards, >>>>> >> >> > >>> Alon >>>>> >> >> > >>> >>>>> >> >> > >>> [1] >>>>> >> >> > >>> http://gerrit.ovirt.org/gitweb?p=ovirt-engine-extension-aaa-ldap.git;a=blob;f=README;hb=master >>>>> >> >> > >>> [2] >>>>> >> >> > >>> http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/devel/2014-August/008367.html >>>>> >> >> > >>> >>>>> >> >> > >>>> >>>>> >> >> > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> >> >> > >>>> From: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alo...@redhat.com> >>>>> >> >> > >>>> To: "Itamar Heim" <ih...@redhat.com> >>>>> >> >> > >>>> Cc: users@ovirt.org >>>>> >> >> > >>>> Sent: Friday, August 8, 2014 3:45:07 PM >>>>> >> >> > >>>> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] ovirt with 389 server inactive >>>>> >> >> > >>>> groups >>>>> >> >> > >>>> >>>>> >> >> > >>>> >>>>> >> >> > >>>> >>>>> >> >> > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> >> >> > >>>>> From: "Itamar Heim" <ih...@redhat.com> >>>>> >> >> > >>>>> To: "Paul Robert Marino" <prmari...@gmail.com>, >>>>> >> >> > >>>>> users@ovirt.org >>>>> >> >> > >>>>> Sent: Friday, August 8, 2014 10:37:11 PM >>>>> >> >> > >>>>> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] ovirt with 389 server inactive >>>>> >> >> > >>>>> groups >>>>> >> >> > >>>>> >>>>> >> >> > >>>>> On 08/07/2014 07:06 PM, Paul Robert Marino wrote: >>>>> >> >> > >>>>>> I have ovirt engine running and connected to a 389 server >>>>> >> >> > >>>>>> with >>>>> >> >> > >>>>>> the >>>>> >> >> > >>>>>> memberof plugin enabled and working properly. >>>>> >> >> > >>>>>> >>>>> >> >> > >>>>>> I can add users and assign them to roles without any >>>>> >> >> > >>>>>> issues. >>>>> >> >> > >>>>>> >>>>> >> >> > >>>>>> when I look at a user I can see all the LDAP groups they >>>>> >> >> > >>>>>> are a >>>>> >> >> > >>>>>> member >>>>> >> >> > >>>>>> of. >>>>> >> >> > >>>>>> >>>>> >> >> > >>>>>> when I run engine-manage-domains -action=validate it >>>>> >> >> > >>>>>> tells me >>>>> >> >> > >>>>>> the >>>>> >> >> > >>>>>> domain is valid. >>>>> >> >> > >>>>>> >>>>> >> >> > >>>>>> here is my problem when I try to assign a role to an LDAP >>>>> >> >> > >>>>>> group >>>>> >> >> > >>>>>> it >>>>> >> >> > >>>>>> looks like it works but in the general tab when under the >>>>> >> >> > >>>>>> group >>>>> >> >> > >>>>>> it >>>>> >> >> > >>>>>> tells me the status is Inactive. >>>>> >> >> > >>>>>> >>>>> >> >> > >>>>>> dose any one know how to enable the group? >>>>> >> >> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >> >> > >>>>>> Users mailing list >>>>> >> >> > >>>>>> Users@ovirt.org >>>>> >> >> > >>>>>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users >>>>> >> >> > >>>>>> >>>>> >> >> > >>>>> >>>>> >> >> > >>>>> 3.4 or new 3.5 Generic LDAP provider? >>>>> >> >> > >>>> >>>>> >> >> > >>>> >>>>> >> >> > >>>> On case this is 3.5 it is known issue, all groups will be >>>>> >> >> > >>>> seen >>>>> >> >> > >>>> as >>>>> >> >> > >>>> inactive, >>>>> >> >> > >>>> this field will probably be removed from UI, as groups are no >>>>> >> >> > >>>> longer >>>>> >> >> > >>>> fetched >>>>> >> >> > >>>> periodically. >>>>> >> >> > >>>> This field is totally ignored. >>>>> >> >> > >>>> >>>>> >> >> > >>>> Alon >>>>> >> >> > >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >> >> > >>>> Users mailing list >>>>> >> >> > >>>> Users@ovirt.org >>>>> >> >> > >>>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users >>>>> >> >> > >>>> >>>>> >> >> > >>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >> >> > >>> Users mailing list >>>>> >> >> > >>> Users@ovirt.org >>>>> >> >> > >>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users >>>>> >> >> > >> >>>>> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ >>>>> >> >> > > Users mailing list >>>>> >> >> > > Users@ovirt.org >>>>> >> >> > > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users >>>>> >> >> > > >>>>> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> > _______________________________________________ >>>>> >> >> > Users mailing list >>>>> >> >> > Users@ovirt.org >>>>> >> >> > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users >>>>> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >> >> Users mailing list >>>>> >> >> Users@ovirt.org >>>>> >> >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> > _______________________________________________ >>>>> >> > Users mailing list >>>>> >> > Users@ovirt.org >>>>> >> > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users >>>>> >> >>>>> _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
