-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 11.09.2014 19:20, Douglas Schilling Landgraf wrote: > I do believe we are improving all components of oVirt release > after release, including oVirt Node. Discouraging people to use it > (or any other component) won't help the project. We are here to > listen the feedback from users to improve the software and > sometimes adding new features based in their requests and > suggestions. I know you are a very active contributor in this > project and thanks for that, if you still have issues in the node > please keep the bugzillas coming.
Sorry for getting Off-Topic: Well yeah, I see lots of improvement, also in the node project. But when people ask about what do you recommend for production I really can't call for node (yet). Most deployments tend to need customization specific to the site where the deployment takes place and in the past it was very hard to alter node for your personal needs (that's also not the projects main goal imho). I don't want to discourage anyone from testing node, but I won't recommend it for production, as I wouldn't recommend fedora (and breakage has happened for people using fedora, just search this mailing list). I really appreciate all the work that is done and I see many improvements, but when it comes to giving advice, some developers are a little naive, I can even make a list: someone has a problem in production: "yeah this is fixed in $BETA (or $ALPHA), just try it out" (without even mentioning that it's a beta release!) "you could easily backport the fix yourself, it's just a one liner" "you need to alter config param $X" (not mentioning this param gets overwritten on upgrades) and so on. I know these are all just good intentions, but I think some people seem to think those people asking are all just running test environments, which is plainly wrong, or I don't know what they think, maybe that it's already robust enough. the project has matured so much, you should keep in mind people might use it to run their business/store sensitive data/host very critical machines on top of ovirt. this is great, but this also comes with some kind of responsibility on the side of a developer. At least that's my opinion when I develop stuff (not such huge projects ;) ) I know there are labels on every open source project and in all software licenses like "use at your own risk". But there is some moral responsibility for stuff you do you can't talk away with some legal paper saying your not responsible for what you do (code) or advice you give. Maybe you should just ask yourself sometimes: "would I do myself what I just advocated if I have really sensible data in my environment?" Anyway, keep up the good work! I know it's all good intentions and of course every developer wants his new features getting used. :) Thanks Sven -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (MingW32) iQGcBAEBAgAGBQJUEiDjAAoJEAq0kGAWDrqlNzsL/1EWhurbdEgt1jhBb/stoNhH KnOANZyYCYUoUttGxG3h3KxM0wRA1mfpSO+yOtVYd/bfclu0M6dy5oRpRw4Q3m2U VGVKqyDKsuQSaYX9CGOY90sYyO8DCt+KV04IN/XntsSpudF5Y+V7EqgBAaGqSS3N ETNL9Jru91pdnJ+ThXtdEsp05DXg7pYYKTRFJ3mCEQOsD2AkcUlz91tQ2h7tC6ZF KPjdRLK2iwQR/ssKduPdirlJ/jxW1K2JaBWUJx9OLLFLpm7D6Ea87beIQwGqX27S jSk1lDm3MGJbK2cuKxZ8rDUnoJFa0DFkUi1pxp6l9IheOirXrvHcW57WkdUkZTb8 7fAeDMpFG3fny0+duAANneMI05NtA9hPl1Vnn6QBnp+nb7GET5JhcEpdgPe17h+W hCBdgfN1OveLscN8E8hGrV9YKKUxkJkFAcXhgxOrTW23z6rwwYDG46t630xTSgIp g401Zs7wyHZVb2FEZRZCuSBK07vcJI/b1nnG7OpS8A== =A8rd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users