CC-ing Michal and Omer who are more familiar with the VM lifecycle logic.
Perhaps there were recent changes that might effect that, although it just 
sounds like a bug.

Oved

----- Original Message -----
> From: "Punit Dambiwal" <hypu...@gmail.com>
> To: "Oved Ourfali" <ov...@redhat.com>
> Cc: users@ovirt.org
> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 4:37:30 AM
> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Strange External Vm's
> 
> HI Oved,
> 
> I removed them forcefully...but yes i have seen that some of the VM cant
> shutdown and even can not poweroff...then i manually suspend >> poweroff >>
> removed....
> 
> But it's strange in 3.5....in 3.4 in any how if you press poweroff button on
> the VM...the VM was poweroff...but in 3.5 even i press poweroff on the
> shutdown stuck VM....poweroff also can not powerdown the VM...
> 
> Thanks,
> punit
> 
> On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 1:43 PM, Oved Ourfali < ov...@redhat.com > wrote:
> 
> 
> VMs are considered external, when they are running on the host, but not known
> to the engine.
> You shouldn't be able to remove a running VM, so either the shutdown failed,
> or there was some other issue that led to that.
> Can you attach the engine.log and the relevant host vdsm.log?
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Punit Dambiwal" < hypu...@gmail.com >
> > To: users@ovirt.org
> > Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 5:02:55 AM
> > Subject: [ovirt-users] Strange External Vm's
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I have upgraded ovirt 3.4 to 3.5 ...now whenever i removed any VM...ovirt
> > created some strage external vm's...
> > 
> > 
> > 
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