No, I never came across this approach. I didn’t know about virt-sparsify.

I’ll look into that and give it a try.

Thank you

Von: Yaniv Dary [mailto:yd...@redhat.com]
Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. September 2016 15:10
An: Sven Achtelik <sven.achte...@mailpool.us>
Cc: Maton, Brett <mat...@ltresources.co.uk>; vasily.lamy...@megafon.ru; Ovirt 
Users <users@ovirt.org>
Betreff: Re: [ovirt-users] VM incremental backup

As I see it you have two options:
- In backup use 'dd' with 'conv=sparse' (or similar tool that allows sparse).
- After backup use virt-sparsify [1] to reduce the size to the real used size 
prior to restore.

To make this extra efficient you can use virt-sparsify anyways after backup to 
make the file even smaller.
Have you considered this approach?

[1] http://libguestfs.org/virt-sparsify.1.html



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On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 4:01 PM, Sven Achtelik 
<sven.achte...@mailpool.us<mailto:sven.achte...@mailpool.us>> wrote:
Hi Yaniv,

how can this be done with DD ? Since it doesn’t know if the block is free space 
? I’ve been looking for such a solution for a long time now. Everything I could 
find out was that I have to use a utility that understands the FS and therefore 
knows where the free space is.

Thank you,

Sven
Von: users-boun...@ovirt.org<mailto:users-boun...@ovirt.org> 
[mailto:users-boun...@ovirt.org<mailto:users-boun...@ovirt.org>] Im Auftrag von 
Yaniv Dary
Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. September 2016 14:38
An: Maton, Brett <mat...@ltresources.co.uk<mailto:mat...@ltresources.co.uk>>
Cc: vasily.lamy...@megafon.ru<mailto:vasily.lamy...@megafon.ru>; Ovirt Users 
<users@ovirt.org<mailto:users@ovirt.org>>
Betreff: Re: [ovirt-users] VM incremental backup

Full VM disk backup. If you use dd you can drop the 0 parts of the disk.


Yaniv Dary

Technical Product Manager

Red Hat Israel Ltd.

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Ra'anana, Israel 4350109



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        8272306

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IRC : ydary

2016-09-27 15:27 GMT+03:00 Maton, Brett 
<mat...@ltresources.co.uk<mailto:mat...@ltresources.co.uk>>:
Is there a preferred or recommended backup method in the meantime ?

2016-09-22 10:30 GMT+01:00 
vasily.lamy...@megafon.ru<mailto:vasily.lamy...@megafon.ru> 
<vasily.lamy...@megafon.ru<mailto:vasily.lamy...@megafon.ru>>:
Hello!
I would like to understand the existence of the possibility of incremental VM 
backups.
And if it is, the means by which it is achieved.
While I was only able to achieve a complete backup of the virtual machine (but 
it is a very large amount of information and time) by cloning a snapshot of the 
VM and export to data domain.

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