On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 1:35 PM Torsten Stolpmann <torsten.stolpm...@verit.de> wrote: > > On 19.12.2018 11:54, Yedidyah Bar David wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 12:34 PM Torsten Stolpmann > > <torsten.stolpm...@verit.de> wrote: > >> > >> On 19.12.2018 08:01, Yedidyah Bar David wrote: > >>> On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 5:20 PM Torsten Stolpmann > >>> <torsten.stolpm...@verit.de> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Hi Yedidyah, > >>>> > >>>> please find the logs at the following URL: > >>>> http://www.klaros-testmanagement.com/files/ovirt/ovirt-restore-logs.tar.gz > >>>> > >>>> Let me know once you received them safely so I can remove them again. > >>> > >>> Done. > >>> > >> > >> Thanks, removed. > >> > >>>> > >>>> I also added the restore.log containing the actual error which occured > >>>> during the restore. > >>>> > >>>> Since this was a clean system I restored on, the setup has been executed > >>>> after the database restore, so the setup logs probably contain nothing > >>>> of interest. I added them anyway. > >>> > >>> Sorry I wasn't clear enough. I meant the setup logs on the machine used > >>> to create the backup. So that I can try to see why your backup contained > >>> this function. Do you still have these by any chance? > >>> > >>> Indeed, I can't see anything wrong in the logs above. > >>> > >> Sorry for misunderstanding, this totally makes sense. > >> > >> I added the setup logs i found at: > >> http://www.klaros-testmanagement.com/files/ovirt/ovirt-setup-logs.tar.gz > >> > >> Again, please let me know once I can remove them. > > > > Done. > > > Thanks, removed. > > >> > >>>> > >>>> Please let me know if there is anything I can add to this. > >>> > >>> If you do not have setup logs from the original machine, at least try > >>> to think about its history and tell us notable points - including entire > >>> version history, setup/upgrade (or similar) problems you had there (and > >>> perhaps worked around), etc. > >>> > >> > >> We started with one of the first 4.0 releases and updated the system on > >> a regular basis since then. We almost never skipped a release. > > > > The last log there is ovirt-engine-setup-20171231170651-lb3q89.log , > > meaning it was last upgraded almost a year ago. Were there indeed no > > more upgrades since? > > > > 20171231170651 is most probably the date when we installed the last > major release (4.2.0). We did a lot more updates since and I now have a > suspicion what went wrong here. > > We naively assumed that a yum update is sufficient for a minor upgrade > of the engine installation.
:-( > Rereading the documentation I think we were > missing explicit engine-setup calls after each minor upgrade. Indeed > > It may be the case, that the extra call to engine-setup is required to > not be part of the yum update. engine-setup might need to ask the user questions, so we do not run it inside yum update. > I think in this case it would be a good > idea to warn users that this step has not yet been taken and the update > is not completed yet. Do you think you would have noticed? It's not that hard to add such a message during yum update, but not sure it's that helpful. Perhaps we can also make the engine check e.g. if the setup package is newer than itself, and warn the user in the admin ui. > > Could this be the cause for the missing logs and behavior discrepancies? > > If yes, would another call to engine-setup in the current state fix this > and allow us to produce correct backups in the future? If you still have the source machine, then yes, it should be enough. Run engine-setup, then engine-backup again to backup, then restore on the new machine. > > > The log indicates the machine was upgraded to ovirt-engine-4.2.0.2 , > > which didn't remove the uuid functions. The bug I linked at before, > > 1515635, was fixed in 4.2.1. > > > > Based on this, I think the best solution for now would be the patch > > you suggested. Would you like to open a bug for this and push a patch > > to gerrit? I can do this as well if you prefer. Bug summary line > > should probably be something like: > > > > engine-setup fails after restoring a backup taken with 4.2.0 > > > I currently fear that would only cure the symptom. > > > Another solution would be to try using the same engine version during > > restore (4.2.0.2), and only upgrade later. This is a bit hard, because > > we do not have separate repos for each version, although they do > > include all released versions - so you can try e.g.: > > > > yum install ovirt-engine-4.2.0.2-1.el7 > > > > (meaning, after you remove existing 4.2.7, or you can try yum downgrade). > > > > I didn't try this myself, not sure how well it would work. There might > > be older dependencies to handle, and/or it might break due to too-new > > stuff. > > > I don't think this is necessary. > > > Obviously, the best solution is to upgrade more often and backup more > > often, and have a smaller difference between backup version and restore > > version, ideally no difference. But I realize this does not always > > work out for everyone... > > > You are right, we did this. > OK. I assume this discussion is theoretical, right? That you already patched engine-backup manually and restored. Best regards, > Best regards > > Torsten > >> > >> There was indeed one glitch during updates which was connected to the > >> Postgres version in use: > >> > >> The initial install was (accidentally) done under Postgres 9.4 which > >> happened to be present on the machine at that point of time. oVirt 4.0 > >> was allowing this way back then. I think in 4.1 Postgres 9.2 has been > >> enforced, so there had been workarounds to allow updates under 9.4. This > >> got resolved with the migration to 4.2 which brought the Postgres 9.5 > >> installation (if I recall that correctly). > >> > >> Other than that I have no idea which might have introduced this. > > > > All of this sounds irrelevant to current problem. Thanks for recalling :-) > > > > Best regards, > > > >> > >> If you find something in the logs you need more information on, please > >> let me know. > >> > >> Best regards > >> > >> Torsten > >> > >> > >>> If you, or anyone, manages to come up with a flow resulting in a 4.2 > >>> engine database that contains a function uuid_generate_v1 in the engine > >>> database schema, I'd definitely want to know about it. > >>> > >>> Re-adding others posting in this thread, in case someone has a clue. > >>> Perhaps one of you has setup logs of the machine on which the backup > >>> was generated? If so, please share. Thanks. > >>> > >>> That said, on a second thought, the implications of this are not that > >>> significant - mainly somewhat lower performance - so perhaps it's more > >>> important to fix your bug (by adding a line to IGNORED_ERRORS, as you > >>> suggested)... but it's still weird. > >>> > >>> Thanks and best regards, > >>> > >>>> > >>>> Cheers, > >>>> > >>>> Torsten > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On 18.12.2018 07:54, Yedidyah Bar David wrote: > >>>>> On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 2:26 PM Torsten Stolpmann > >>>>> <torsten.stolpm...@verit.de> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I experienced the same issue while restoring a full backup (engine & > >>>>>> dwh) on a clean machine. Both machines are running CentOS 7.6 and > >>>>>> oVirt 4.2.7. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> The issue went away when adding the following line to the > >>>>>> IGNORED_ERRORS > >>>>>> list starting at 1944 in engine-backup: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> must be owner of function uuid_generate_v1 > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Hope this helps, > >>>>> > >>>>> It does, and thanks for the report! > >>>>> > >>>>> Can you please share all of your setup logs > >>>>> (/var/log/ovirt-engine/setup/*)? > >>>>> > >>>>> Thanks! > >>>>> > >>>>> More details: > >>>>> > >>>>> This function should not normally be included in a 4.2 backup, and I do > >>>>> not yet understand why you get this error. > >>>>> > >>>>> If it's a clean 4.2 setup, it should never have been defined. > >>>>> Earlier versions did create it, and the upgrade process should have > >>>>> dropped it, if it's an upgraded setup. See also: > >>>>> > >>>>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1515635 > >>>>> > >>>>> Best regards, > >>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Torsten > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On 24.05.2018 11:32, emmanuel.the...@obs-nancay.fr wrote: > >>>>>>> hi, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I have the same error when I try to restore on a new hosted VM (ovirt > >>>>>>> 4.2.3) > >>>>>>> Have you a solution ? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Emmanuel > >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>> Users mailing list -- users@ovirt.org > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@ovirt.org > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> Users mailing list -- users@ovirt.org > >>>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@ovirt.org > >>>>>> Privacy Statement: https://www.ovirt.org/site/privacy-policy/ > >>>>>> oVirt Code of Conduct: > >>>>>> https://www.ovirt.org/community/about/community-guidelines/ > >>>>>> List Archives: > >>>>>> https://lists.ovirt.org/archives/list/users@ovirt.org/message/YMMFCYUMLCM47OJSTHXS2IMOIKEEFU27/ > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Users mailing list -- users@ovirt.org > >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@ovirt.org > >>>> Privacy Statement: https://www.ovirt.org/site/privacy-policy/ > >>>> oVirt Code of Conduct: > >>>> https://www.ovirt.org/community/about/community-guidelines/ > >>>> List Archives: > >>>> https://lists.ovirt.org/archives/list/users@ovirt.org/message/FCN5WVAJOGFBUTFV276O2RMCTMACAGTS/ > >>> > >>> > >>> > > > > > > -- Didi _______________________________________________ Users mailing list -- users@ovirt.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@ovirt.org Privacy Statement: https://www.ovirt.org/site/privacy-policy/ oVirt Code of Conduct: https://www.ovirt.org/community/about/community-guidelines/ List Archives: https://lists.ovirt.org/archives/list/users@ovirt.org/message/XCPSE6O3AMYT5GTGMTMF4AHFDISJMYSU/
