I think that this can be resolved by a remote (r)syslog system and proper 
documentation.

I would be happy to write a short crash-course , but I will definately need 
assiatance from more experienced person.
So far (7 months later) , I still struggle to find my errors and where to 
control log level.

Best Regards,
Strahil NikolovOn Jun 18, 2019 12:18, m...@brendanh.com wrote:
>
> "trade-off between time [developing] and time spent debugging such cases when 
> they do happen" 
>
> Your call.  All I know is, it took me over a month to install oVirt, 
> including three weeks of one-to-one time with Simone Tiraboschi from Red Hat. 
>  He sent me eleven emails but eventually gave up, baffled as me.  It 
> shouldn't be this hard.  Others who are having this or similar problems will 
> just abandon oVirt: ("I'm just wondering if I should cut my losses with 
> oVirt"): 
> https://lists.ovirt.org/archives/list/users@ovirt.org/thread/PZJYNAKPYNQUTTNAXG57HTMQHATWYQGZ/
>  
>
> The biggest challenge is to find the relevant error. What would be useful is 
> a log aggregator.  If oVirt had a journalctl type app running on the host 
> that tails ALL the logs including the engine logs from hosted-engine (via 
> ssh), everything would be in one place and easy to spot.  Currently, you need 
> fairly detailed knowledge of the architecture and install process to (i) find 
> the log files (ii) whittle down to the one displaying the problem.  Yes, I 
> know you guys have a log-packaging app that compresses them up, so they can 
> be sent to Red Hat for inspection (does this even include hosted-engine 
> logs?).  But with a journalling app, users would be able to spot the error 
> themselves and most of the time (if it's not a new bug), fix it on their own 
> like I did.  And yes, I know once set up, users will have their own log 
> aggregator in the form of Kibana, Splunk, etc but these don't help during the 
> initial install.
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