On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 12:42 PM Alex K <rightkickt...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 12:01 PM Yedidyah Bar David <d...@redhat.com> wrote:
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>> On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 11:30 AM Alex K <rightkickt...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 11:51 AM Anton Louw via Users <users@ovirt.org> 
>>> wrote:
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>>>> Hi All,
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>>>> Does somebody perhaps know the process of changing the Hosted Engine IP 
>>>> address? I see that it is possible, I am just not sure if it is a straight 
>>>> forward process using ‘nmtui’ or editing the network config file. I have 
>>>> also ensured that everything was configured using the FQDN.
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>>> Since the FQDN is not changing you should not have issues just updating 
>>> your DNS then changing manually the engine IP from the ifcfg-ethx files 
>>> then restart networking.
>>> What i find difficult and perhaps impossible is to change engine FQDN, as 
>>> one will need to regenerate all certs from scratch (otherwise you will have 
>>> issues with several services: imageio proxy, OVN, etc) and there is no such 
>>> procedure documented/or supported.
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>> I wonder - how/what did you search for, that led you to this conclusion? Or 
>> perhaps you even found it explicitly written somewhere?
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> Searching around and testing in LAB. I am testing 4.3 though not 4.4. I used 
> engine-rename tool and although was able to change fqdn for hosts and engine, 
> I observed that some certificates were left out (for example OVN was still 
> complaining about certificate issue with subject name not agreeing with the 
> new FQDN - checking/downloading the relevant cert was still showing the 
> previous FQDN). I do not deem successful the renaming of not all services are 
> functional.

Very well.

I'd find your above statement less puzzling if you wrote instead "...
and the procedure for doing this is buggy/broken/incomplete"...

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>> There actually is:
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>> https://www.ovirt.org/documentation/administration_guide/#sect-The_oVirt_Engine_Rename_Tool
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> At this same link it reads:
> While the ovirt-engine-rename command creates a new certificate for the web 
> server on which the Engine runs, it does not affect the certificate for the 
> Engine or the certificate authority. Due to this, there is some risk involved 
> in using the ovirt-engine-rename command, particularly in environments that 
> have been upgraded from Red Hat Enterprise Virtualization 3.2 and earlier. 
> Therefore, changing the fully qualified domain name of the Engine by running 
> engine-cleanup and engine-setup is recommended where possible.
> explaining my above findings from the tests.

No. These are two different things:

1. Bugs. All software has bugs. Hopefully we fix them over time. If
you find one, please file it.

2. Inherent design (or other) problems - the software works as
intended, but that's not what you want...

See also:

https://www.ovirt.org/develop/networking/changing-engine-hostname.html

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>> That said, it indeed was somewhat broken for some time now - some fixed were 
>> only added quite recently, and are available only in current 4.4:
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> This is interesting and needed for migration scenarios.

Can you please elaborate?

If it's DR migration, perhaps you want storage export/import, as is
done using the DR tool:

https://www.ovirt.org/documentation/disaster-recovery-guide/disaster-recovery-guide.html

If you just want to use a new name, but do not need to completely
forget the old one, you can add it using SSO_ALTERNATE_ENGINE_FQDNS.

> Also I am wondering if I can change in some way the management network and 
> make from untagged to VLAN tagged.

Sorry, no idea. Perhaps start a different thread about this.

Best regards,

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>> https://github.com/oVirt/ovirt-engine/commits/master/packaging/setup/plugins/ovirt-engine-rename
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>> I do not think I am aware of currently still-open bugs. If you find one, 
>> please file it in bugzilla. Thanks!
>>
>>>
>>> I might be able to soon test this engine IP change in a virtual environment 
>>> and let you know.
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>>
>> Thanks and good luck!
>> --
>> Didi
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