On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 10:10 PM tfe...@swissonline.ch <
tfe...@swissonline.ch> wrote:

> Cloning VM's is a core feature of virtualization.
>
> I remember having cloned VM's back in the 90's with the free VMware
> version 0.9.
>
> My main use case ever since is cloning fully configured production servers
> into a testservers, for isolated testing.
>
> Why would a hypervisor not offer cloning, when it is possible and useful?
>
> regards, Toni
>

(Added users@ovirt.org back)

Sure, it can be handy in some cases - that's why we've implemented it in
oVirt and enhance it in 4.4.3 (for running VMs).
But I wouldn't expect it to be commonly used via the user portal, that's
why I am interested in the use-case.


>
> On 10.11.20 16:22, Arik Hadas wrote:
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 4:37 PM Nicolás <nico...@devels.es> wrote:
>
>> Hi Arik,
>>
>> El 10/11/20 a las 13:21, Arik Hadas escribió:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 3:08 PM Nicolás <nico...@devels.es> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Sharon,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the reply! I've opened [1], so hopefully someone will be able
>>> to implement it.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Nico
>>>
>>>   [1]: https://github.com/oVirt/ovirt-site/issues/2389
>>>
>>> El 10/11/20 a las 11:38, Sharon Gratch escribió:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> This feature of cloning a VM was indeed part of the old User Portal and
>>> you are right that it's not supported by the newer VM Portal (since oVirt
>>> 4.3).
>>> It seemed that this wasn't required by VM Portal users (no user
>>> complained up till now) and that's why we omitted it and it's not part of
>>> our current roadmap to implement it as well.
>>>
>>> Nevertheless, there is no real reason not to include that ability as
>>> part of VM Portal, so you are most welcome to open an issue on
>>> https://github.com/oVirt/ovirt-web-ui/issues
>>> <https://github.com/oVirt/ovirt-site/issues>
>>> and you can push a fix yourself if you have time (or someone else from
>>> the community) :-)
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Sharon
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 11:06 AM Nicolás <nico...@devels.es> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> We're using oVirt 4.3.8, having an organization that intensively uses
>>>> the User Portal. After upgrading from 4.2, we've noticed that cloning a
>>>> VM from within the User Portal is not possible anymore. In our case,
>>>> this feature was heavily used by hundreds of students deploying their
>>>> VMs.
>>>>
>>>
>> Out of curiosity, why cloning a VM and not provisioning the VMs from
>> template(s)?
>>
>>
>>
>> Most of our students are IT-related, and their professors want to teach
>> them the procedure to deploy a VM from scratch. Some other courses surely
>> deploy their VMs from a template as they are not that IT oriented and they
>> just want to have a working VM instead of building it from scratch. We have
>> a lot of casuistry, but in our case about 400~500 students would very
>> welcome having back the clone option.
>>
>
> Thanks Nicolás.
> I'd say that even for the IT-related students it may make more sense to
> provision VMs from templates instead of cloning VMs -
> so you want them to deploy VMs from scratch, which means starting with a
> VM that is based on the blank template, add disk(s) and other devices,
> install and configure the guest and such; and then the students would use
> clone-VM to duplicate the VM they just prepared, right?
> Why would you want them to clone the VM rather than creating a template
> out of this VM and provision further VMs from that template with
> thin-provisioned disks?
>
>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Nico
>>
>>
>>>> Is this feature in the roadmap yet? If not, do you consider it useful
>>>> to
>>>> open a RFE?
>>>>
>>>> Thank you.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Nico
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