> On 12 Sep 2016, at 12:38, Barry Neu <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Sure, it’s in the first email of this thread and here for convenience:
> PDF in question is here:       https://github.com/BarryNeu/shared 
> <https://github.com/BarryNeu/shared>

Ah, ok, perfect. So looking at the file in PDFDebugger I see that the fields 
are in an arbitrary order, for example
the first six fields are:

EE FIRST NAME
EE MIDDLE NAME
EE CHANGE CERTIFICATE
EE GENDER MALE
EE GENER FEMAEL
EE ADDRESS 2

Each field does however contain a ”Rect" entry which specifies its bounds, 
however with complex forms like
this it’s not obvious how to map that back to an order.

Worse still, many ”fields" on the form are not Acrobat form fields at all, so 
you have no way to discover them.

— John

> Thank you.
> 
> 
>> On Sep 12, 2016, at 1:36 PM, John Hewson <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On 12 Sep 2016, at 10:17, Barry Neu <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’m trying to achieve the following.
>>> Client has forms approved by U.S. states where font must be Helvetica 9pt.
>> 
>> Feel free to share a link to one of these forms and we can take a look.
>> 
>> -- John
>> 
>>> Some content to be populated on the forms does not fit in the field. In 
>>> this case there is a “footnote” such as "Addendum 1" populated in the 
>>> field, and the actual content for the field is populated on an addendum 
>>> page merged as a separate page to the base form. The addendum page 
>>> references the numbered addendum(s) populated in the base form’s fields.
>>> Ideally, Addendum 1, Addendum 2, and so on would be numbered left to right, 
>>> top to bottom in the fields of the form.
>>> Sounds like that is not possible without setting up some type of external 
>>> ordering of the fields on the form.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 12, 2016, at 9:47 AM, Maruan Sahyoun <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Barry,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Am 12.09.2016 um 17:16 schrieb Barry Neu <[email protected] 
>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Is there any way to influence the order the fields occur in the field 
>>>>> tree when creating fillable forms or otherwise?
>>>> 
>>>> is there a specific order you are looking for? What are you trying to 
>>>> achieve? The order of the fields in the AcroForms fields array and the 
>>>> order how they are tabbed on screen when a user filled the form are not 
>>>> related!
>>>> 
>>>> BR
>>>> Maruan
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sep 9, 2016, at 4:44 PM, John Hewson <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 9 Sep 2016, at 15:15, Barry Neu <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hello.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The API docs for this method state an iterator is returned which "walks 
>>>>>>> all fields in the field tree, in order”.
>>>>>>> Is the order left to right, top to bottom on the form .. I was hoping?
>>>>>>> I was hoping it was but ehe following code seems to prove otherwise.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It's not a visual order. It's simply the order in which the fields occur 
>>>>>> in the field tree. This has no relation to where fields appear on the 
>>>>>> page.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -- John
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> PDDocument pdDoc = 
>>>>>>> getTemplate("http://localhost:8000/template/Template_MA_ABJ4580MAG5_EF_L70SS_v5.pdf
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> <http://localhost:8000/template/Template_MA_ABJ4580MAG5_EF_L70SS_v5.pdf>");
>>>>>>> PDAcroForm pdAcroForm = pdDoc.getDocumentCatalog().getAcroForm();
>>>>>>> Iterator<PDField> iter = pdAcroForm.getFieldIterator();
>>>>>>> while (iter.hasNext()) {
>>>>>>> PDField field = iter.next();
>>>>>>> String fieldName = field.getPartialName();
>>>>>>> System.out.println("field partial name: " + fieldName );
>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> PDF in question is here:     https://github.com/BarryNeu/shared 
>>>>>>> <https://github.com/BarryNeu/shared>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>>>>> Barry
>>>>>> 
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