It means you have other reset cursor options when doing the ledger trimming
On Sat, Mar 19, 2022 at 5:52 AM Tecno Brain <cerebrotecnolog...@gmail.com> wrote: > I found this in the logs: > * Failed to mark delete while trimming data ledgers: Reset cursor in > progress - unable to mark delete position 18377:-1* > but although the messages indicate different topics, the time matches when > we started to see messages replayed. > > What causes that message? What are the consequences of it? > > On Fri, Mar 18, 2022 at 1:31 PM Tecno Brain <cerebrotecnolog...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> I wonder what would I have seen in the logs if someone had done something >> like this: >> >> bin/pulsar-admin persistent reset-cursor --time 3h >> persistent://tenant/namespace/topic >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 1:54 PM Tecno Brain <cerebrotecnolog...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi Penghui, >>> No, we are not seeing messages "disappear" because of TTL. >>> What we observed is that messages from 3 out of 20 topics were >>> reprocessed. >>> We initially thought that the messages were written again into the >>> topic by our own applications, but we did not find any evidence of that >>> happening. Our applications logs are pretty good and we would have found >>> some evidence. >>> We couldn't find the reason. >>> Our hypothesis was that the cursor was lost and I was trying to find >>> a way to verify that hypothesis through the Pulsar logs...looking if we had >>> lost a broker or a bookie. >>> Initially, I thought that perhaps those 3 topics belonged to the same >>> "bundle" and whenever the broker changed, the cursor was lost. >>> But Pulsar stores the cursor in the bookies, not the broker....so, a >>> broker change shouldn't affect the cursor for the subscription (a shared >>> subscription) >>> We haven't observed the same issue again. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Mar 12, 2022 at 7:21 AM PengHui Li <peng...@apache.org> wrote: >>> >>>> If you have TTL, the messages will be expired. >>>> You mean "cursor was lost", how do you verify this? >>>> to list subscriptions or not able to consume the message? >>>> If it is the latter, I think it should be related to the message TTL. >>>> >>>> And how about the "brokerDeleteInactiveTopicsMode" in your broker >>>> settings? >>>> If you are using "delete_when_subscriptions_caught_up", after all the >>>> message >>>> been expired, the topic will be deleted automatically by default. >>>> >>>> Penghui >>>> >>>> On Sat, Mar 12, 2022 at 5:28 AM Tecno Brain < >>>> cerebrotecnolog...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> We do have a backlog quota and messageTTL >>>>> >>>>> Our namespace is configured as follows: >>>>> >>>>> Backlog quota: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *"message_age BacklogQuotaImpl(limit=-1, limitSize=-1, >>>>> limitTime=180000, policy=consumer_backlog_eviction)"* >>>>> Retention: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *{ "retentionTimeInMinutes" : 0, "retentionSizeInMB" : 0}* >>>>> >>>>> Message TTL: >>>>> >>>>> *172800* >>>>> >>>>> All topics are partitioned. >>>>> >>>>> *{ >>>>> "partitions" : 3 >>>>> }* >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 11:24 PM PengHui Li <codelipeng...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Have you changed the backlog quota policy or enabled the message TTL? >>>>>> Pulsar will not remove any cursors or skip messages by default. >>>>>> >>>>>> Penghui >>>>>> On Mar 11, 2022, 1:25 PM +0800, Tecno Brain < >>>>>> cerebrotecnolog...@gmail.com>, wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hello, >>>>>> I have an application using Pulsar just as JMS (we get single >>>>>> messages, acknowledge them when we are done processing it) >>>>>> The entire system, composed of several types of apps, uses about 40 >>>>>> different topics. >>>>>> >>>>>> Yesterday, an application that subscribes to about 20 queues, >>>>>> suddenly was inundated with thousands of messages from two of the queues >>>>>> but I could not track those messages to an application producing them. We >>>>>> found that the messages were *duplicates*. >>>>>> So it seems that the cursor to these two topics was lost, and >>>>>> messages from 3 hours earlier were consumed again. I found the following >>>>>> paragraph : >>>>>> >>>>>> "Each subscription stores a cursor. The cursor is the current offset >>>>>> in the log. Subscriptions store their cursor in BookKeeper in ledgers. >>>>>> This >>>>>> makes cursor tracking scalable just like topics." >>>>>> ( >>>>>> https://jack-vanlightly.com/blog/2018/10/2/understanding-how-apache-pulsar-works >>>>>> ) >>>>>> >>>>>> My guess is that the cursor was lost. >>>>>> How could I verify that this was the case? I can't find anything >>>>>> relevant in the logs. >>>>>> >>>>>> The only message I found occurring around the same time is >>>>>> >>>>>> New ensemble: >>>>>> [pulsar-bookie-2.pulsar-bookie.pulsar.svc.cluster.local:3181, >>>>>> pulsar-bookie-0.pulsar-bookie.pulsar.svc.cluster.local:3181, >>>>>> pulsar-bookie-3.pulsar-bookie.pulsar.svc.cluster.local:3181] is not >>>>>> adhering to Placement Policy >>>>>> >>>>>> Any pointers are appreciated. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>