On Sex, 2013-06-07 at 16:18 +0100, Fraser Adams wrote:
> On 07/06/13 15:11, Bruno Matos wrote:
> > Hi Fraser,
> >
> > Thank you.
> > I'm glad that it's already there, sorry to ask, but I searched in the
> > web site and didn't find anything about it there.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Bruno Matos
> As I say, it's now in the trunk. It hasn't made it into the up-coming 
> qpid 0.22 release, but it should make it into 0.24. For info the 0.22 
> release will feature some nifty changes to the web site - though I guess 
> it still won't mention the GUI 'cause it's not in 0.22.
> 
> To date there aren't massive differences to the last version attached to 
> the original Jira post, mainly tweaks and some tidying up. Since I 
> actually committed it I've spent most of my available time doing the 
> Java Broker QMF stuff. TBH I think that was a wise move because getting 
> a grip on management is one of the "strategic" things that needs to be 
> properly sorted and as much by accident as design (I started out doing 
> the Java Broker QMF plugin as a bit of fun to see if I could :-)) it 
> ended up stirring things up a little and giving some decent food for 
> thought.
> 
> There's an awful lot of changes afoot wrt. management, Rob Godfrey has 
> been beavering away at OASIS on the AMQP 1.0 Management Specification - 
> you may have seen his post a few weeks ago? Trying to evolve towards 
> that without breaking all the existing QMF tooling is going to be an 
> *interesting* journey :-) I'm still musing over it (AKA procrastinating 
> big time).
> 
> Another thing that's likely to start happening more is increasing 
> "componentisation". So that's already happened with Proton, but I think 
> it's likely to happen with other aspects (including/especially) management.
> 
> In many ways the Java Broker is way ahead of the curve there because of 
> the plug-in architecture (It turned out to be surprisingly easy to write 
> the QMF plugin despite having no experience of the Java Broker and a 
> slightly moving target as the plugin API evolved). Unfortunately the QMF 
> stuff in the C++ broker is somewhat more coupled in with the core broker 
> code base. I think there's a general view that it'd be good to decouple 
> and move it to a plug-in, but I'm not aware of any concrete plans on 
> that front yet. IMHO that's a pretty essential prerequisite for moving 
> towards AMQP 1.0 Management as plugins/shims are our friends when it 
> comes to "dual-stacking" QMF and AMQP 1.0 Management. Unfortunately my 
> C++ is currently rusty/lousy so I doubt I can help there.
> 
> Hopefully you are still finding the UI useful? Unfortunately it got me a 
> bit hooked on HTML5 and I've recently got a bit sidetracked trying to 
> push the boundaries a bit, one of my side-projects is an HTML5 VNC 
> client that I'm messing with as a forerunner to having a go at doing an 
> HTML5 X11 Server - unfortunately there aren't enough hours in the day to 
> do everything I'd like :-)

Yes, I'm still using it. I didn't try it on 0.22 though, but soon I
will.

We should make a movement to increase the number of hours in a day, if I
can suggest a number, I would say at least 48... :)

Regards.

-- 
Bruno Matos


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