On 07/22/2013 06:47 PM, Fraser Adams wrote:
I guess one slight issue is that it might take a bit of time to "have a
bit more feedback etc" on things living in /test because it's probably
not the first place most users would look and it's not normally
"installed" by default so I expect qpidt is only likely to either be
"stumbled upon" or possibly found via people noticing it mentioned in
discussion threads and then grepped.

Yes, that's a very fair point and I think its probably worth revisiting the discussion around management tooling in general.

I'd tend to agree with the sentiment about having a generic
create/delete/list capability though I guess the more generic the more
the syntax to control it needs a good manual (we've already had a
discussion on relative merits of qpidt vice qpid-ctrl, the latter of
which I believe could do the same as qpidt, but is ironically probably
*too* generic :-))

Yes, qpid-ctrl can invoke add/delete, but also any other method and at present at least it is therefore a little less intuitive for the simpler stuff. Neither qpid-ctrl nor qpidt are fully polished end-user tools at this point. However I do feel loathe to simply add more stuff to qpid-config without an attempt at some 'genericising'.

Out of curiosity would you be interested if I were to put this sort of
behaviour into the GUI?

Very!

There's probably useful scope for having a
fairly generic key/value entry page to cater for some of the more
"edge-case" queue options, and certainly it might make supporting the
currently quite wildly varying queue options between the C++ and Java
broker a more tractable problem to solve. Once the stuff is in place to
support general key/value queue options it ought to be pretty easy to do
the sort of general thing that qpidt allows.

Very much agree.

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