> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gordon Sim [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: September-05-13 1:26 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Need help running the java send/recv example with the Qpid
> java broker
> 
> On 09/05/2013 06:16 PM, Jonathan Albrecht wrote:
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Gordon Sim [mailto:[email protected]]
> >> Sent: September-05-13 12:03 PM
> >> To: [email protected]
> >> Subject: Re: Need help running the java send/recv example with the
> >> Qpid java broker
> >>
> >> On 09/05/2013 04:36 PM, Jonathan Albrecht wrote:
> >>> Does the proton protocol engine have support for authentication or
> >>> is that outside the protocol?
> >>
> >> The protocol defines how to do authentication using SASL. The
> >> protocol engine does expose this in a little more detail and has some
> >> basic support for PLAIN. (It doesn't yet allow a SASL based encryption or
> signing layer though).
> >>
> >> However, I think the plan is to have the proton-j messenger support
> >> PLAIN at least as well, it just hasn't been done yet. The c based
> >> messenger does support plain as well as anonymous. Of course PLAIN on
> >> its own is not great, so you would probably want to use SSL there as
> >> well (or indeed perhaps instead of). Raise a JIRA at
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PROTON.
> >
> > Thanks I will but I will need to read up on amqp auth first.
> 
> I just meant raise an issue saying that PLAIN (or other) support is required 
> for
> proton-j messenger. That way the current functionality gap is on the radar
> more clearly.

Okay will do.

> >>> As a side question, I'm trying to figure out what java client lib I
> >>> should use with the qpid java broker if I don't want to use JMS.
> >>
> >> Just to satisfy my curiosity, can I ask why you are keen to avoid JMS?
> >
> > Our apps are not jee at all and we're trying to keep dependencies to a
> minimum. I see that the javax.jms jms-api artifact is available in maven so if
> that's all I need I'll start looking at it.
> >
> >>> I was hoping to use proton Messenger.
> >>
> >> Do you have a list of requirements you're going to need, or features
> >> you plan to make use of on the broker side?
> >
> > Our needs are going to be pretty simple (I hope). We are going to need to
> do request response messaging between multiple frontend and backend
> processes. The backends are not identical. The frontends will know which
> backend process it needs to talk to. Backends (and probably frontends) will
> rarely be added or removed.
> 
> Will you need dynamically created response queues (or similar), or will it be
> possible to create queues (or whatever) for each communicating pair?
> 

Statically created queues. If I understand things correctly I should be able to 
do this with a request queue per backend and a response queue per frontend and 
use the replyTo and correlationId properties to get everything where its 
supposed to go.

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