Sorry -- I didn't realize this list would remove the image of my graph.

Can everyone see this?
<https://www.dropbox.com/s/4t1xbp46y57mfgn/messages_vs_time.jpg?dl=0>

On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 7:51 AM Chuck Rolke <[email protected]> wrote:

> The mail list scrubs attachments. Maybe create a jira and add the image
> to that.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Michael Goulish" <[email protected]>
> > To: [email protected]
> > Sent: Friday, February 12, 2021 2:43:40 AM
> > Subject: Re: Dispatch Router: Changing buffer size in buffer.c blows up
> AMQP.
> >
> > *Can you explain how you are measuring AMQP throughput?  What message
> sizes
> > are you using?  Credit windows?  How many senders and receivers?  Max
> frame*
> > * size?*
> >
> > Oops! Good point. Describe the Test!
> >
> > 100 senders, 100 receivers, 100 unique addresses -- each sender sends to
> > one receiver.
> > Each sender is throttled to 100 messages per second (Apparently I Really
> > Like the number 100).
> > And message size is .... wait for it ...   100.    (payload size .. so
> > really 139 or something like that.)
> >
> > Credit window is 1000.
> >
> > I can't find anything in my router config nor in my C client code about
> max
> > frame size.   What do I get by default? Or, how can I check that?
> >
> > The way I measured throughput was that -- first -- I noticed that when I
> > made the test go longer, i.e. send 20 million total messages instead of
> the
> > original 1 million -- it was taking much longer than I expected. So I had
> > each receiver log a message every time its total received messages was
> > divisible by 1000.
> >
> > What I saw was that the first thousand came after 11 seconds (just about
> as
> > expected because of sender-throttle to 100/sec) but that later thousands
> > became slower. By the time I stopped the test -- after more than 50,000
> > messages per receiver -- each thousand was taking ... well ... look at
> this
> > very interesting graph that I made of one receiver's behavior.
> >
> > This graph is made by just noting the time when you receive each
> thousandth
> > message (time since test started) and graphing that -- so we expect to
> see
> > an upward-sloping straight line whose slope is determined by how long it
> > takes to receive each 1000 messages (should be close to 10 seconds).
> >
> > [image: messages_vs_time.jpg]
> >
> > I'm glad I graphed this! This inflection point was a total shock to me.
> > NOTE TO SELF: always graph everything from now on forever.
> >
> > I guess Something Interesting happened at about 28 seconds!
> >
> > Maybe what I need ... is a reading from "qdstat -m" just before and after
> > that inflection point !?!??
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 11, 2021 at 5:37 PM Ted Ross <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > On Thu, Feb 11, 2021 at 2:08 PM Michael Goulish <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > OK, so in the file Dispatch Router file src/buffer.c I changed this:
> > > >       size_t BUFFER_SIZE     = 512;
> > > > to this:
> > > >       size_t BUFFER_SIZE     = 4096;
> > > >
> > > > Gordon tells me that's like 8 times bigger.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > It makes a terrific difference in throughput in the TCP adapter, and
> if
> > > you
> > > > limit the sender to the throughput that the receiver can accept, it
> can
> > > go
> > > > Real Fast with no memory bloat.  ( Like 15 Gbit/sec )
> > > >
> > > > But.
> > > > AMQP throughput is Not Happy with this change.
> > > >
> > > > Some of the managed fields grow rapidly (although not enough to
> account
> > > for
> > > > total memory growth) -- and throughput gradually drops to a crawl.
> > > >
> > > > Here are the fields that increase dramatically (like 10x or more) --
> and
> > > > the ones that don't much change.
> > > >
> > > >   qd_bitmask_t
> > > >   *qd_buffer_t   *
> > > >   qd_composed_field_t
> > > >   qd_composite_t
> > > >   qd_connection_t
> > > >   qd_hash_handle_t
> > > >   qd_hash_item_t
> > > >   qd_iterator_t
> > > >   *qd_link_ref_t*
> > > >   qd_link_t
> > > >   qd_listener_t
> > > >   qd_log_entry_t
> > > >   qd_management_context_t
> > > >   *qd_message_content_t*
> > > >   *qd_message_t*
> > > >   qd_node_t
> > > >   qd_parse_node_t
> > > >   qd_parse_tree_t
> > > >   qd_parsed_field_t
> > > >   qd_session_t
> > > >   qd_timer_t
> > > >   *qdr_action_t*
> > > >   qdr_address_config_t
> > > >   qdr_address_t
> > > >   qdr_connection_info_t
> > > >   qdr_connection_t
> > > >   qdr_connection_work_t
> > > >   qdr_core_timer_t
> > > >   qdr_delivery_cleanup_t
> > > >   *qdr_delivery_ref_t*
> > > >   *qdr_delivery_t*
> > > >   qdr_field_t
> > > >   qdr_general_work_t
> > > >   qdr_link_ref_t
> > > >   qdr_link_t
> > > >   qdr_link_work_t
> > > >   qdr_query_t
> > > >   qdr_terminus_t
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone have a great idea about any experiment I could do,
> > > > instrumentation I could add, whatever -- that might help to further
> > > > diagnose what is going on?
> > > >
> > >
> > > Can you explain how you are measuring AMQP throughput?  What message
> sizes
> > > are you using?  Credit windows?  How many senders and receivers?  Max
> frame
> > > size?
> > >
> >
>
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