any guidance choosing between “Legacy Stack” and libbsd?

I’ve got a 512MB of RAM processor, so I expect that I’ll have lots left over. 
But that is TBD.

A

> On 2021-February-01, at 15:21, Joel Sherrill <j...@rtems.org 
> <mailto:j...@rtems.org>> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 4:03 PM Gedare Bloom <ged...@rtems.org 
> <mailto:ged...@rtems.org>> wrote:
> 
> 
> On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 2:42 PM Chris Johns <chr...@rtems.org 
> <mailto:chr...@rtems.org>> wrote:
> On 2/2/21 8:32 am, Mr. Andrei Chichak wrote:
> > Is there any advantage to using bsd networking over LWiP, or vice versa? 
> 
> They are different stacks with different feature sets and different hardware
> resource demands. I am not familiar with the features of LwIP so I am not the
> best person to compare them.
> 
> The BSD stack has most of the features you get with FreeBSD. It has IPv4, 
> IPv6,
> IPsec, VLAN, bridging, dhcp, openssl, lots of routing alternatives, packet
> filtering and more. It has a range of useful commands including tcpdump.
> 
> The BSD based system provides a solid base to solve a range of networking 
> issues
> your RTEMS device may encounter at the system level and not at the low level
> programming level.
> 
> The BSD stack uses a lot more resources to do all this and LwIP may be a 
> prefect
> fit. I welcome RTEMS being able to support a range of networking solutions.
> 
> 
> I have a student (Vijay) working on refactoring libnetworking out of RTEMS, 
> and will be testing ability to compile legacy vs libbsd. If the lwip build is 
> demonstrated and clear, I can have him also look at bringing that into the 
> fold. This is in line with https://devel.rtems.org/ticket/3850 
> <https://devel.rtems.org/ticket/3850>
> 
> One thing to be aware of is that all the POSIX networking header files for 
> RTEMS are in newlib and always present. I had to address this and lwip when 
> we did Deos+RTEMS. Deos uses lwip as their native stack running in a 
> partition and other partitions use a client to get to it. The lwip constants 
> had values that were not the same as the RTEMS BSD headers for POSIX defines. 
> There were also some places where the structure definitions did not align. I 
> had to write a bit of mapping in the client. When lwip works at all, it would 
> be awesome to have a way for it to ignore their own minimal POSIX API files 
> and build against ours. 
> 
> This would be similar to how the newlib headers define a very complete POSIX 
> API set but each target OS may only support a subset of it.
> 
> As it is, I wonder if there is a conflict between the RTEMS newlib network .h 
> files and those provided by lwip which could cause issues.
>  
> 
> We have no certain timeline yet, but it is now work-in-progress. We will 
> bring to devel when progress is made. If we do lwIP too, we will aim to do a 
> performance analysis with real hardware, so that we can hopefully provide 
> evidence to help these kind of questions. 
> 
> -Gedare 
> 
> Chris
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