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Thank you-- that is good to know.

It does bring me a further question: where does the NMR sit in this space of 
components? For example, what functionality is the NMR bringing that Camel's VM 
component does not? Does the NMR integrate in some way with DOSGi? Or is it 
bounded at the OSGi container? (In which case, it would seem to have a smaller 
remit than the VM component...) I assume that the NMR is intended to do more 
than support the JBI container...?

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A. Soroka
Software & Systems Engineering :: Online Library Environment
the University of Virginia Library

On Apr 16, 2012, at 11:01 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> you can use in an OSGi environment. The vm endpoint from one bundle is 
> visible to the routes in others bundles (I use it a lot).
> 
> Regards
> JB
> 
> On 04/16/2012 04:41 PM, [email protected] wrote:
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>> I've been wondering about the VM component myself-- as I understand it (and 
>> I may be wrong) it relies on classloader visibility for VM endpoints to be 
>> visible to other components. Would there be any issues of conflict with the 
>> OSGi classloader system there? For example, would VM endpoints in one bundle 
>> be visible to other bundles?
>> 
>> - ---
>> A. Soroka
>> Software&  Systems Engineering :: Online Library Environment
>> the University of Virginia Library
>> 
>> On Apr 13, 2012, at 11:07 AM, Christian Schneider wrote:
>> 
>>> Btw. there is also the vm: component which allows you to communicate 
>>> between bundles... and of course there always is jms :-)
>>> In fact I always use camel directly in Karaf and have not faced bigger 
>>> issues where I would have missed the NMR.
>>> 
>>> Christian
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Am 13.04.2012 16:42, schrieb [email protected]:
>>>> I found this to be surprisingly difficult. I was motivated by a raft of
>>>> improvements in Camel 2.9.x, especially better Blueprint support, but I ran
>>>> into lots of package import-export problems and this:
>>>> 
>>>> http://fusesource.com/issues/browse/MR-434
>>>> 
>>>> so eventually, I switched to using Camel in Karaf without ServiceMix.
>>>> Luckily, our integration problem was simple enough that I could switch from
>>>> using the NMR to using Camel's SEDA component. I'd like to switch back
>>>> before our integrations get more complex (which they always do {grin}).
>>>> 
>>>> Of course, YMMV.
>>>> 
>>>> ---
>>>> A. Soroka
>>>> Software and Systems Engineering
>>>> the University of Virginia Library
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 10:01 AM, James Carman
>>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Is it okay to upgrade the existing version of Camel that's bundled
>>>>> with ServiceMix?  We would like to upgrade to Camel 2.9.x.  If so,
>>>>> what's the easiest way to do so?  Do we just have both versions
>>>>> running inside the container?
>>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Christian Schneider
>>> http://www.liquid-reality.de
>>> 
>>> Open Source Architect
>>> Talend Application Integration Division http://www.talend.com
>>> 
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> -- 
> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
> [email protected]
> http://blog.nanthrax.net
> Talend - http://www.talend.com

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