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Ah, I missed the Western Union aspect.  In that case, it's
unquestionably a scam ;)

- --j.

"Bret Miller" writes:
> Thanks to everyone who responded to this. The responses make the user
> think again about the purchase. Combined with a couple strange details
> like the seller appeared to be U.S.-based at first and then became
> foreign; the price more than doubled; PayPal was removed as a payment
> option leaving only Western Union, it really looks like a scam. Anyway,
> the user decided against the purchase and this is apparently NOT a FP.
> So, good think it scores so high or I probably wouldn't have thought
> twice about why it ended up in the spam folder to begin with.
> 
> Thanks again,
> Bret
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Pierre Thomson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 10:38 AM
> > To: Bret Miller
> > Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org
> > Subject: RE: SARE_FORGED_EBAY FP??
> >
> > Definitely not a false positive!  And considering that it is
> > promoting and purportedly protecting the sale of an expensive
> > ($2210) item outside of eBay, and demanding a Western Union
> > money transfer (no, no, no!) I would treat it with the utmost
> > suspicion.
> >
> > Other anomalies:
> >
> > - as Justin points out, the sender IP is a dynamic AOL address
> > - the message was sent via webmail (first hop is HTTP)
> > - note the header "X-RocketYMMF: cacabeat99"; that gives a
> > clue to the Yahoo ID of the sender.
> >
> > The text seems to be cut-n-pasted from an actual eBay email.
> > But that gives it no authenticity.
> >
> > Bottom line: SARE_FORGED_EBAY is working just fine!
> >
> > Pierre Thomson
> > BIC
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 12:21 PM
> > To: Bret Miller
> > Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: SARE_FORGED_EBAY FP??
> >
> >
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> >
> > Definitely sent from Yahoo! Mail through their webmail interface,
> > by the user "cacabeat99", at IP address 172.179.255.127 (AOL space):
> >
> >   Received: (qmail 94635 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Sep 2005
> > 14:12:13 -0000
> >     Message-ID:
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >     Received: from [172.179.255.127] by
> > web203.biz.mail.re2.yahoo.com via
> >     HTTP; Tue, 27 Sep 2005 07:12:13 PDT
> >   X-RocketYMMF: cacabeat99
> >
> > I'd suspect someone on his auctions is spoofing eBay mails to
> > fool him.
> >
> > - --j.
> >
> > "Bret Miller" writes:
> > > I have a user who swears this message is legit and has been
> > dealing with
> > > this seller through ebay. I warned him that hitting SARE_FORGED_EBAY
> > > isn't a good thing, but that I would report what seems to
> > him to be a
> > > false positive on it. The thing that gets me is that it claims to be
> > > from ebay, but comes from a yahoo server.  Here is the
> > message that hit:
> > >
> > > X-Spam-Tests:
> > > tests=BAYES_00=-2.599,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,J_CHICKENPOX_44=0.6,
> > >   J_CHICKENPOX_48=0.6,J_CHICKENPOX_52=0.6,J_CHICKENPOX_55=0.6,
> > >
> > >
> > J_CHICKENPOX_73=0.6,RCVD_IN_MXRATE_WL=-1,SARE_FORGED_EBAY=104;
> > autolearn=
> > > no
> > > X-Spam-Score: 103.4
> > > X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on
> > > mail.hq.wcg.org
> > > X-Spam-Level: ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4
> > > X-WCG-CGPSA-Filter: Scanned
> > > Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Received: from web203.biz.mail.re2.yahoo.com
> > ([68.142.224.165] verified)
> > >   by mail.wcg.org (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.6)
> > >   with SMTP id 14560007 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 27 Sep 2005
> > > 07:12:32 -0700
> > > Received: (qmail 94635 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Sep 2005
> > 14:12:13 -0000
> > > Message-ID:
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Received: from [172.179.255.127] by
> > web203.biz.mail.re2.yahoo.com via
> > > HTTP; Tue, 27 Sep 2005 07:12:13 PDT
> > > X-RocketYMMF: cacabeat99
> > > Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 07:12:13 -0700 (PDT)
> > > From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: eBay International Second Chance Offer Invoice for Item:
> > > 8333405041
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > MIME-Version: 1.0
> > > Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
> > > boundary="0-1651436707-1127830333=:91265"
> > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
> > >
> > > --0-1651436707-1127830333=:91265
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
> > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
> > >
> > >     Buying new items, brand names, and collectibles on eBay
> > is simple.
> > > Here's how it works... Congratulations, eBay transaction started!
> > >   * Current status: Payment pending. Purchase protection granted.
> > >
> > >
> > >  Dear rryd.thornton ( 54)  ,
> > >
> > >  After verifying the trustworthiness of the seller nurit214 ( 1028)
> > > and the availability of the merchandise for immediate
> > shipping, we have
> > >  approved your buy it now transaction and offered you as the buyer,
> > >  full purchase protection for the amount you agreed on with
> > the seller.
> > >
> > >
> > >            Complete your eBay transaction in 5 easy steps:
> > >   *************************************************
> > >
> > >  1-Buyer and seller agree on the transaction terms and a
> > selling price.
> > >  2-Seller contacts eBay with the transaction details.
> > >  eBay accepts the transaction and offers purchase protection to the
> > >  buyer (if the transaction is declined, no further action
> > is required
> > >  from either the buyer or the seller).
> > >  3-The buyer sends payment. After the payment
> > >  cleared, the seller must notify eBay. Buyer will send the payment
> > >  details directly to the seller email address. The seller has three
> > >  business days to send the buyer and eBay the tracking number of the
> > >  shipment. If no tracking number is provided, a full refund is
> > >  immediately sent to the buyer;
> > >  4-Buyer receives the merchandise and has five days to inspect it.
> > >  If it is complete and as described, the buyer should accept the
> > > merchandise.
> > >  If he refuses the merchandise, the buyer must ship the merchandise
> > >  back to the seller within three business days.
> > >  5-After the inspection period is over, the buyer must
> > contact eBay with
> > >  the result of the inspection. If the buyer refuses the merchandise,
> > >  the refund will be sent to the buyer after the tracking
> > number for the
> > >  returned shipment is verified.
> > >
> > >  To enjoy the purchase protection, you must send the payment by the
> > >  insured payment method below.
> > >  Attention: Sending the payment by any other method will void this
> > >  transaction and your right to refund.
> > >
> > >  Details and instructions of this transaction:
> > >
> > >  * The following item(s) are protected in this eBay transaction:
> > > Item name: RARE 1896 $5.00 SILVER CERTIFICATE "EDUCATIONAL NOTE"Item
> > > price:US $2,210.50/ Amount insuredShipping price:Ready to ship / The
> > > Item price includes shipping and insurance
> > fees.Payment:Pending Seller's
> > > verified payment address:Jim Oliver
> > > 112 Edith Road
> > > London,W14 9AP
> > > United Kingdom  Buyer's shipping address:
> > > Jerry Thornton
> > > PO Box 50602
> > > Pasadena, CA 91115-0602
> > > United States
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  Date of verification:                   Sept-24-2005
> > > Payment must be sent by:          Western Union Money Transfer
> > > Next step to be taken:               The buyer must send
> > the payment to
> > > the seller
> > >  * Complete your eBay transaction:
> > >
> > >    Payment instructions:
> > >
> > >  To submit the payment with Western Union Money Transfer,
> > you have two
> > > options:
> > >
> > >  1. Pay for the transfer with cash at a local Western Union agent.
> > >  Click here to locate the agents in your area
> > >  http://www.westernunion.com/info/agentInquiryIntl.asp
> > >
> > >  2. If you are now in the USA and need to use a credit/debit card
> > >  (Visa or MC), call 1-800-CALL-CASH and make the payment to
> > the verified
> > > name
> > >  of the seller. An additional fee will be charged on most
> > cards because
> > >  this transaction will be considered a cash advance on your card.
> > >
> > >  ...
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
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