From: Marc Perkel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bret Miller wrote:

Bret Miller wrote:

                *       127.0.0.1 - whilelist - trusted nonspam

                *       127.0.0.2 - blacklist - block spam

                *       127.0.0.3 - yellowlist - mix of spam

and nonspam

                *       127.0.0.4 - brownlist - all spam - but

not yet enough

                to blacklist







        And hotmail.com warrants being blacklisted?? Ouch.



        I do like the idea of white and yellow lists. If I

could just get

        CommuniGate to add the ability to use it...



Hotmail would be yellow listed.





My headers say RCVD_IN_JMF_BL, the rule says:



header RCVD_IN_JMF_BL eval:check_rbl_sub('JMF', '127.0.0.2')

describe RCVD_IN_JMF_BL Sender listed in JMF-BLACK

tflags RCVD_IN_JMF_BL net

score RCVD_IN_JMF_BL 1.0



And here are the headers:



X-Spam-Tests: tests=AWL=0.782,BAYES_00=-2.599,EXTRA_MPART_TYPE=1,



FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,PART_CID_STOCK=1.635,RCVD_IN_JMF_B
L=

1,



RCVD_IN_MXRATE_WL=-2,RDNS_NONE=0.1,T_TVD_FW_GRAPHIC_ID1=0.01;autolearn=no

X-Spam-Score: 1.4

X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on mail.hq.wcg.org

X-Spam-Level: +

X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.6a5

X-WCG-CGPSA-Filter: Scanned

Return-Path:  <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Received: from [65.54.246.239] (HELO bay0-omc3-s39.bay0.hotmail.com)

  by mail.wcg.org (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.11)

  with ESMTP id 22324864 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 27 Aug 2007 11:29:31 -0700

Received: from hotmail.com ([65.55.130.13]) by

bay0-omc3-s39.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2668);

         Mon, 27 Aug 2007 11:29:16 -0700

Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC;

         Mon, 27 Aug 2007 11:29:15 -0700

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<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Received: from 71.110.94.199 by BAY125-DAV3.phx.gbl with DAV;

        Mon, 27 Aug 2007 18:29:10 +0000

X-Originating-IP: [71.110.94.199]

X-Originating-Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

From: " Common Ground"  <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: <xxxx>

Subject: Back to School Blessings

Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 11:29:09 -0700

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        type="multipart/alternative"

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X-MSMail-Priority: Normal

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To me, this equals hotmail is on the black list.



Bret




Something is odd. That IP isn't in any of my lists.


 Indeed. The problem is the rule, not the list. The check looks back at
all IPs in the path, including the X-Originating-IP headers. So, "[2860]
dbg: dns: hit <dns:199.94.110.71.hostkarma.junkemailfilter.com> 127.0.0.2"
is what SA says is the problem. I guess I need to look at fixing it so it
scans only the last external...

Bret




I did some experimenting a while back looking at all the received IP
addresses and got too many false positives. I had to give up on the idea
because it didn't work.

OK... but the rules you supplied for SpamAssassin did exactly that-- they
looked back at all the received headers and X-Original-IP and tested them
against the lists. Add a -lastexternal to the set name to get only the
last IP outside your network.

Bret

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