On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 12:26,  <dar...@chaosreigns.com> wrote:
> On 10/05, Jim Popovitch wrote:
>> On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 17:41, RW <rwmailli...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> > The usual reason for a hiatus is that too much spam or ham has aged-out
>> > in the corpora, and a top-up is needed.
>
> I think it's more accurate to say the usual reason is that too many people
> have stopped automatically submitting data via masscheck, and we need
> more people to submit data.
>
> I have a graphical representation of the problem here:
> http://www.chaosreigns.com/dnswl/tot.svg
> Green is spam, red is non-spam.  They both need to be above the blue line
> (150,000 emails each) for score generation to run to create the rule updates.
> Counts as of the last (net) run:
> Non-spams: 136261  (90.8% of the minimum)
> Spams:     351950 (234.6% of the minimum)
>
>> So, how do we get it top-up'ed?
>
> You contribute your data:
> http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/NightlyMassCheck
> The more we have, the more accurately we can calculate optimal rule
> scores, always.  Unfortunately the Project Management Committee has a habit
> of never responding to requests for masscheck accounts.
>
>
> But the current situation appears to be abnormal.  For some reason RuleQA
> / score generation isn't including data submitted by uploading full emails
> (normally just rule hit stats are uploaded).
>
> There is an open bug about that problem here:
> https://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=6671
>
> It seems there is nobody with the access, knowledge of the system,
> and time required to fix the problem.
>
> There was supposed to be a SpamAssassin v3.4.0 Release Candidate released
> 19 days ago, which seems to be primarily held up by this rule update
> problem.  Which nobody is working on.
>
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Darxus, thanks for the summation of the situation.

Is the missing entity one person, several people, many people?  Was
there an untimely death?   I believe everyone is now aware that there
exists a problem, how to we bridge the gap?

Thanks!

-Jim P.

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