What about the Contrib components available for 4.0? Will these work with 4.1?


On 12/5/06, Daniel Tabuenca <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
So tacos 4.0 is definetly not compatible with Tapestry 4.1? If so, it
would be nice to include  old components and forward them to  tapestry
with a not that they are deprecated.

On 12/5/06, andyhot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> No, not really...
> I've recently started tacos-4.1.0 snapshot releases... but they only
> contain
> the sitemap components = really cool way to get an instant menu system in
> your app.
>
> Anyway, some tacos components can now be replaced with the ones tapestry
> provides,
> which ones are you currently using ?
> For instance tacos:AjaxForm can now be Form with async=true
>
> So, i wasn't planning on including tacos:AjaxForm and such in tacos-4.1.0
> but perhaps we can ease the migration process by adding them + making
> them forward to tapestry's ones
>
> Daniel Tabuenca wrote:
> > If I'm currently using 4.0.2+Tacos, can someone tell me if I can
> > upgrade to 4.1+Tacos and incrmenetally port my pages that use tacos
> > components to the new 4.1 ajax framework?
> >
> > On 12/5/06, Sam Gendler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Given the parameters that you describe for your app, I'd definitely go
> >> with 4.1.  The only reason I wouldn't is if you knew you were going to
> >> be building a very large app that was going to use a significant
> >> percentage of the API, since in that case, you might struggle keeping
> >> up with changes.  But all the baseline tapestry functionality works
> >> 98% of the time and I imagine that the API in the core is already
> >> pretty stable. Bugs may come and go, but at least you shouldn't be
> >> rewriting entire functions to match some new interface.  And 4.1 is
> >> unquestionably superior to tap + tacos for ajax functionality
> >> (although tacos has some nice components that haven't been ported yet.
> >>  But they should be pretty simple to do yourself, shoudl the need
> >> arise).
> >>
> >> --sam
> >>
> >>
> >> On 12/5/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> > Thanks! My app is launched in 4.0 right now, but the next version
> >> will probably be launched January 31st, so that was part of the
> >> reason I was aching to go for 4.1 since there's still 2 months to go
> >> for bug fixes, etc... Though I suppose we *should* schedule Christmas
> >> somewhere in there ;)
> >> >
> >> > Greg
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ron Piterman
> >> > Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 1:23 PM
> >> > To: users@tapestry.apache.org
> >> > Subject: Re: 4.1 Stability (Hi Jesse! :P)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > If you need ajax, you can't go around 4.1 - if you don't, 4.0 has some
> >> > advantages (as far as I can see) - such as much smaller javascript
> >> > footprint for form validation, and stability -
> >> >
> >> > However, Jesse does a great work in fixing bugs in 4.1 very fast, I go
> >> > to sleep in Europe and Jesse fixes the bugs at day time in the states,
> >> > so the next morning a new version is out - thats amazing !
> >> >
> >> > It is not so easy to recommend anything in active development for
> >> > production - I can just say - I am working on a project which
> >> should go
> >> > in production on Jan 1st and am using 4.1 ---
> >> >
> >> > Cheers,
> >> > Ron
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Cyrille37 wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > Hi Jesse,
> >> > >
> >> > > You think we have to use the 4.1 vs. 4.0.
> >> > > For example I'm learning Tapestry for a project which will really
> >> start
> >> > > in january.
> >> > > Will you tell me to use the 4.1 ?
> >> > >
> >> > > thanks
> >> > > cyrille
> >> > >
> >> > > Jesse Kuhnert a écrit :
> >> > >> I think it would reckless of me to recommend anything that may
> >> or may
> >> > >> not affect anyone's job/career..
> >> > >>
> >> > >> That being said - if it were me - yeah I'd totally go for it.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> It's probably been a mistake to wait so long for 4.1.1 to come out
> >> > >> anyways. Probably I'll just fix this validation message issue and
> >> > >> release it.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> On 12/5/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> > >>> Okay, I know Jesse is probably fed up with these types of
> >> questions!
> >> > >>> And we've gone over it before, about 4.1, 5.0, roadmaps, etc, a
> >> > >>> couple weeks ago.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> The 4.1 "snapshot" that's out right now, for a relatively
> >> simple app
> >> > >>> - no custom components, hivemind services, Java 1.4 so no
> >> > >>> annotations, and maybe a sprinkle of DOJO stuff (hence the
> >> reason to
> >> > >>> switch to 4.1!!) - would moving from 4.0 to 4.1 be a horrible
> >> idea?
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> I skimmed over a lot of the open issues on JIRA and none seem too
> >> > >>> severe, or too widespread to some of the "proven" core of
> >> tapestry.
> >> > >>> Our application is for our internal staff (a dozen or so), and
> >> since
> >> > >>> it's relatively small, is usually decently tested for bugs. So
> >> it's
> >> > >>> not like I'm re-writing Amazon.com or something with Tap4.1 and
> >> will
> >> > >>> lose billions of dollars over a bug..
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> 4.1 looks really nice, and it would be great to jump in, rather
> >> then
> >> > >>> do it in 4.0 and then re-do it in 4.1 in 6 months. That said,
> >> go for
> >> > >>> it? All comments apprieciated!
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> Thanks,
> >> > >>> Greg
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
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