Yes, I totally understand and it's of course very important that
you do not change the API each time a user asks for it.

The question in this case is then: why does the interface require
a Field? It's only the Field's elementName that is used for the
recordError functionality, so is it only for convenience, that
recordError expects a Field, so that users do not have to do
s.th. like recordError(_field.getElementName(), "foo")?

Or is there another reason why recordError asks for a Field?

Cheers,
Martin


On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 10:54 -0700, Howard Lewis Ship wrote:
> There's a long history in Tapestry of any time there's a hint of extra
> API, people find a way to abuse it. So I'm being very, very
> conservative!
> 
> On 6/12/07, Martin Grotzke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > And what are your concerns with an additional method
> > recordError(String,String) on the ValidationTracker (and Form)?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Martin
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 09:19 -0700, Howard Lewis Ship wrote:
> > > I'm not familiar enough with Hibernate Validator to say.
> > >
> > > On 6/11/07, Martin Grotzke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Hi Howard,
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, 2007-06-09 at 22:44 +0200, Martin Grotzke wrote:
> > > > > Does this enable us to use hibernate validator in our business layer
> > > > > that is completely independent from tapestry?
> > > > > Hibernate validator is right now our favorite option for validation,
> > > > > but it might be that we have to use an own implementation - we're 
> > > > > still
> > > > > evaluating.
> > > > >
> > > > > What we're sure about is that in the business layer validation is
> > > > > performed and that for each validation error details are provided
> > > > > that should allow the presentation layer to map this information
> > > > > to a specific field/element.
> > > > >
> > > > > IMHO a good solution for this use case is recording the error with
> > > > > the element name, without being forced to have a Field for each
> > > > > element.
> > > > >
> > > > > What do you think?
> > > > Do you have any comments/feedback concerning this?
> > > >
> > > > Thanx && cheers,
> > > > Martin
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > Martin
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, 2007-06-09 at 12:48 -0700, Howard Lewis Ship wrote:
> > > > > > That's true ... though I expect to make Tapestry smarter about
> > > > > > recognizing the Hibernate annotations and producing automatic 
> > > > > > client-
> > > > > > and server-side validation for them.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 6/9/07, Martin Grotzke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > > We want to do validation in the business layer (with hibernate
> > > > > > > validator) and get back an exception with a list of invalid 
> > > > > > > values,
> > > > > > > where each invalid value provides the property path.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Then we want to have a mapping of the property path to the element
> > > > > > > name and record an error for this on the tapestry form.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The value is to be able to use hibernate validator in our business
> > > > > > > layer and not to be forced to define each Field in the page class,
> > > > > > > which is better in terms of performance and saves unnecessary 
> > > > > > > work.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > Martin
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Sat, 2007-06-09 at 10:07 -0700, Howard Lewis Ship wrote:
> > > > > > > > I don't see the value ... how would you obtain the element name
> > > > > > > > without getting the field itself; and if you've injected the 
> > > > > > > > field (to
> > > > > > > > invoke getElementName() ), then why wouldn't you just pass the 
> > > > > > > > field
> > > > > > > > to the tracker?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Convince me there's something actually missing.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 6/9/07, Martin Grotzke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > right now there's a recordError(Field,String) method for 
> > > > > > > > > storing
> > > > > > > > > errors for elements of the page.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > We would like to have also a method 
> > > > > > > > > recordError(String,String) where
> > > > > > > > > the first parameter is the element name.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The ValidationTrackerImpl seems to use only the elementName 
> > > > > > > > > of the
> > > > > > > > > Field:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >     private FieldTracker get(Field field)
> > > > > > > > >     {
> > > > > > > > >         String key = field.getElementName();
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >         refreshFieldToTracker();
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >         FieldTracker result = 
> > > > > > > > > InternalUtils.get(_fieldToTracker, key);
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >         if (result == null)
> > > > > > > > >             result = new FieldTracker(key);
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >         return result;
> > > > > > > > >     }
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > so an additional method seems to be not a big issue.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Would this be possible to add to T5? Shall we submit a patch 
> > > > > > > > > for this
> > > > > > > > > here in the list or enter an issue?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thanx && cheers,
> > > > > > > > > Martin
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
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