you are right, that is more usefull.

instead introducing conversation to field level,
it should be set at page/component level.

flash is I suppose already session specific and should be
also conversation specific,
but I'm still not convinced that something should be done to
those that explicitly state @Persist("session")

Davor Hrg

On Dec 20, 2007 7:03 PM, Josh Canfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I think Flash persistence would also want to be in the context of the
> conversation, otherwise couldn't messages show up in the second window that
> were intended for the first (perhaps with a slow connection to the server?)
>
> Without having spent much time thinking about this (and never having used
> Seam), it feels like a promising direction would be to redefine what a
> session means for your application.
>
> Tapestry already wraps the javax.servlet.http.HttpSession when it's created
> in the Request object. Would it make sense to replace that implementation
> with a ConversationSession that implements the Session interface but
> compartmentalizes the session by whatever it is that you are using for
> context?
>
> So in
> http://tapestry.formos.com/nightly/tapestry5/apidocs/src-html/org/apache/tapestry/internal/services/SessionImpl.html<http://tapestry.formos.com/nightly/tapestry5/apidocs/src-html/org/apache/tapestry/internal/services/SessionImpl.html#line.29>
> 038        public Object getAttribute(String name)
> 039        {
> 040            return _session.getAttribute(name);
> 041        }
> becomes
> 038        public Object getAttribute(String name)
> 039        {
> 040            return _session.getAttribute(_myContextId).get(name);
> 041        }
> where _myContextId results in a map of context specific attributes...
>
> Admittedly I haven't coded anything around this idea so there could be some
> fatal flaws, I just thought I'd throw it out there.
>
> Josh
>
>
> On Dec 20, 2007 12:25 AM, Davor Hrg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > It seems you are trying too hard to fix user mistakes,
> >
> > a developer using the conversation persistence strategy must be aware of
> > it
> > and code accordingly. Forcing a specific persistence strategy can also
> > cause
> > undesired behaviours (for example error messages that use
> > @Persist("flash"))
> >
> > these are just my thoughts on the subject, I haven't really looked deeper
> > into
> > persistence strategies...
> >
> > Davor Hrg
> >
> > On Dec 20, 2007 9:20 AM, Kristian Marinkovic
> >  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > hi filip,
> > >
> > > @Meta("tapestry.persistence-strategy=conversation") only works if the
> > > @Persist annotation does not specify a strategy. I want to override the
> > > strategy even if
> > > the developer has set it to a specific strategy.... so whenever a
> > > conversation is started
> > > the values of all persistent fields will be saved in the conversation.
> > And
> > > i want to be able
> > > to switch it on or off during runtime because it should be able to use
> > the
> > > same page with
> > > or without a conversation context.
> > >
> > > I think i've too look harder :) ... If i succeed i'll put my solution
> > > open-source somewhere... :)
> > >
> > > g,
> > > kris
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Filip S. Adamsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > 19.12.2007 18:29
> > > Bitte antworten an
> > > "Tapestry users" <users@tapestry.apache.org>
> > >
> > >
> > > An
> > > Tapestry users <users@tapestry.apache.org>
> > > Kopie
> > >
> > > Thema
> > > Re: [T5] overriding persistence strategy of all fields to conversation
> > > strategy
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Stick a @Meta("tapestry.persistence-strategy=conversation") annotation
> > > on your page class?
> > >
> > > -Filip
> > >
> > > Kristian Marinkovic skrev:
> > > >
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > i'm currently implementing a conversation module (similar to seam) by
> > > > defining an own persistence strategy. i thought of an explicit and an
> > > > implicit mode for conversations. The explicit mode requires that every
> > > > persistent field within a conversation is annotated with
> > > > @Persist("conversation"). the implicit mode would replace the given
> > > > persistence strategy of any annotated field in a page with
> > > "conversation".
> > > >
> > > > Can someone help me how to solve this problem? The
> > > > PersistentFieldManager sets default strategies (@Meta) but cannot be
> > > > overriden on a per page base.
> > > >
> > > > any suggestions? thanks
> > > >
> > > > g,kris
> > > >
> > > >
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