I respect that, differents points of view. I work with Java IDEs since
1997 from Jcafe to Jbuilder.
Eclipse has created a great platform WTP that allows you many different
configurations across any application server. The only difference with
netbeans is that it has not any embedded webserver. Its really useful
for beginners. 

And now, did eclipse satisfies all my necesities ? No, neither Netbeans
5. All of us have different repositories structures, way of work, team
work, reporting tools, etc. A good web application development
enviroment would be one who allows you fully customization.

Netbeans took good concepts of Eclipse and is trying to be similar as
Jbuilder, a very good commercial tool. Our team works with Netbeans and
Eclipse, each developer has preferences, and that is respecful.

Best regards from NC

-----Original Message-----
From: David Grace [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 5:10 PM
To: 'Tomcat Users List'
Subject: RE: Best eclipse plugin for tomcat development

Hi,

Not sure what you mean by Netbeans will catch up to Eclipse but Netbeans
has many, many more features than Eclipse and it seems these features
are being slowly adopted by Eclipse.

The only feature I can see Eclipse has is that it uses SWT. I personally
don't see the need for SWT as well written Swing applications run
perfectly and fast on all java platforms.

Netbeans has had tomcat in-built as its default server for years and
years now, and is great for tomcat projects. That's my experience
anyway.

Dave.

-----Original Message-----
From: Asensio, Rodrigo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 21 March 2006 12:35 AM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: Best eclipse plugin for tomcat development

I use to work with sysdeo too, but it is so limited that I had to change
to other tool. Nobody here will pay myeclipseIde, then, I found WST,
that is the natural implementation of eclipse for Enterprise
applications (JSP, XML, Webservices, ejb, etc).

Sysdeo is good, but WST is much better.

Netbeans 5 is great! I think that in 2 years will be almost like
eclipse. (their aproach is not very good, Swing is still slow and you
know the difference)

Regards.

Rodrigo Asensio

-----Original Message-----
From: Wade Chandler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 2:45 PM
To: Tomcat Users List; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Best eclipse plugin for tomcat development

--- Richard Mixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Dola,
> 
> For the last couple of years I have used the Sysdeo plugin with good 
> success.
> 
> But since December the all-in-one bundle of Eclipse with the Eclipse 
> Web Tools Project has been available. This is a completely integrated 
> build that does not require installation of plugins. Not only does it 
> run Tomcat with integrated debugger, but has decent JSP, HTML and 
> Javascript editors. Also there was a nice step by step tutorial in a 
> recent JDJ edition.
> 
> Here are the links:
>   
>
http://download.eclipse.org/webtools/downloads/drops/R-1.0-200512210855/
> 
> Arguably there are better individual pieces, or even bundled 
> combinations such as MyEclipse and others, but IMHO this is probably 
> the easiest way to get going.
> 
> HTH - Richard
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dola Woolfe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 9:45 AM
> To: Tom Cat
> Subject: Best eclipse plugin for tomcat development
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Following the advice of the mailing lists members, I'm trying to work 
> with Eclipse. I've learned that to do tomcat development I need to 
> download an appropriate plugin and that there are seveal to choose 
> from. Can someone recommend a good one (or is there a best one, or the

> most common one)?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Dola

This doesn't exactly answer your question, but I use Netbeans a lot for
development of Web applications and Java UIs.  Netbeans has built in
support for Tomcat straight out of install without adding any extra
plugins, and you can install other modules for JBoss and Sun Application
Server, and there may be others. 
You might give it a try.  I haven't used Eclipse much myself.

Wade

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