Williams, Nick wrote:
-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Schultz [mailto:ch...@christopherschultz.net]
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 5:08 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: Is it possible to expire jvmRoute cookie

2. How one additional user can be a problem in such a system? If he
accesses a heavy-loaded system the things will be slow for him, but
faster for all others, who close their browsers regularly.
Let's take a pathological example:

Assumptions:
1. Cluster has 3 nodes (A, B, C)
2. Users never close their browsers

Let's say that server A is rock-solid and never goes down. Servers B and C are 
running Gentoo Linux or Debian Sid or Microsoft Windows or have flaky hardware 
and so they crash or need to be  rebooted all the time; perhaps daily.

Users on nodes B and C will constantly fail-over to node A.

Those users will stick on node A pretty much forever.

Therefore node A always gets most of the traffic, and nodes B and C only get 
"new" users for a while before failing-over. Even if nodes B and C can handle 
1/3 of the load, they will get much less than that, and node A will, over time, 
accumulate users without bound.

It would be nice to avoid this kind of situation.

So one could recommend that if things go slow to close one's browser,
clean caches, or even reboot. ;)

"If I called tech support for a website and they told me I needed to close my browser 
or reboot my computer to just to use their website, I would assume that they were complete 
idiots. If I want to be lied to about what the problem is, I'll call my home broadband 
provider." <-- HAHAHA ... nice one.

I agree with Chris, here. It's not a "common" situation, but it is a possible 
situation, and if it occurred, it could get ugly quickly.

Earlier somebody (I'm sorry, I already deleted the email) suggested Tomcat returning a 
308 or 309 or similar to the load balancer to trigger a "re-balance" if the 
session is expired. I think this is the best idea I've heard yet, solves the problem 
elegantly and simply, and seems (relatively) easy to achieve (this coming from someone 
who has no knowledge of the code used by mod_jk/isapi_redirector).


I must admit that this sounds more elegant (and efficient) than my suggested interceptor module.

Alternatively, if one wanted to avoid touching mod_jk for this, maybe tomcat could return a 302 redirect to the starting page of this application, if known ? (without jsessionid.jvmroute of course).



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