On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 3:24 PM, Christopher Schultz <
ch...@christopherschultz.net> wrote:

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> Bob,
>
> On 11/1/13, 7:57 PM, Bob DeRemer wrote:
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message----- From: Christopher Schultz
> >> [mailto:ch...@christopherschultz.net] Sent: Friday, November 01,
> >> 2013 6:11 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: attempting to
> >> achieve 100K concurrent websocket connections on Tomcat 7.0.48
> >> NIO
> >>
> > Bob,
> >
> > Just a quick note: with NIO, you should not need 100k threads to
> > serve 100k connections. Can a single process even request 100k
> > threads from the OS under your current environment?
> >
> >
> >> Hi Chris,
> >
> > As for a single client requesting 100K, no. There's a limit to the
> > number of ephemeral ports outbound, but 40 - 50K is definitely
> > doable per machine.
>
> I'm talking about threads, not connections. I don't doubt you could do
> that many connections (though you might need a bit of
> TCP/IP-stack-tuning to allow that many /concurrent/ connections).
>
> I'm concerned that your user is not permitted to start that many
> threads and/or processes. You would be getting a different error,
> though, in that case (likely "OutOfMemoryError: Cannot allocate a new
> thread" or something like that).
>
> Ideally, you won't need anywhere near 100k threads to handle 100k
> connections: that's the whole point (okay, well, half) of
> Websocket-style communication of course.
>
> > We'll try setting maxThreads = -1 (like Mark mentioned), just to
> > see how it works. With regard to machines, the client and server
> > are both BIG EC2 instances with 16 vCPUs and 60 GB RAM. We were
> > able to get 2 client machines, each running 1 java process
> > simulating 40K websocket clients, connected to 1 Tomcat server
> > instance - so 80K concurrent connections. It just seems that if we
> > hit it too hard all at once, there are problems and we can't quite
> > determine what's at the root of it.
>
> Interesting. That you can't apply the load all at once would indicate
> a threading issue in Tomcat... otherwise things would just be slow at
> the start of the test and then speed-up as the load smoothed-out. I
> haven't yet read Mark's replies... he's likely got something fixed
> already ;)
>

Could it be related to the EC2 infrastructure?
When doing performance tests it's IMHO it's always preferable to have
dedicated hardware. Controlled and deterministic environment helps the
investigations.


> - -chris
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