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Isaac,

On 3/11/14, 6:56 PM, Isaac Gonzalez wrote:
> 
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: Christopher Schultz
> [mailto:ch...@christopherschultz.net] Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014
> 8:18 AM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: tomcat 6 refuses mod_jk
> connections after server runs for a couple of days
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> On 3/6/14, 7:39 AM, Daniel Mikusa wrote:
>> On Mar 5, 2014, at 4:51 PM, Isaac Gonzalez
>> <igonza...@autoreturn.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Mikusa 
>>> [mailto:dmik...@gopivotal.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 
>>> 12:42 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: tomcat 6 refuses
>>> mod_jk connections after server runs for a couple of days
>>> 
>>> On Mar 4, 2014, at 1:55 PM, Isaac Gonzalez
>>> <igonza...@autoreturn.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Dan,
>>>> 
>>>> ________________________________________ From: Daniel Mikusa
>>>>  [dmik...@gopivotal.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 6:20
>>>> AM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: tomcat 6 refuses mod_jk
>>>>  connections after server runs for a couple of days
>>>> 
>>>> On Mar 4, 2014, at 6:32 AM, Rainer Jung
>>>> <rainer.j...@kippdata.de> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 27.02.2014 23:06, Isaac Gonzalez wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Christopher(and Konstantin), attached is a couple of
>>>>>> thread dumps of when we experienced the issue again
>>>>>> today. I also noticed we get this message right before
>>>>>> the problem occurs: Feb 27, 2014 12:47:15 PM 
>>>>>> org.apache.tomcat.util.threads.ThreadPool$ControlRunnable
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
run SEVERE: Caught exception (java.lang.OutOfMemoryError:
>>>>>> unable to create new native thread) executing 
>>>>>> org.apache.jk.common.ChannelSocket$SocketAcceptor@177ddea,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
terminating thread
>>>>> 
>>>>> Is it a 32Bit system? You have 2GB of heap plus Perm plus
>>>>> native memory needed by the process plus thread stacks. Not
>>>>> unlikely, that you ran out of memory address space for a 32
>>>>> bit process.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The only fixes would then be:
>>>>> 
>>>>> - switch to a 64 bit system
>>>>> 
>>>>> - reduce heap if the app can work with less
>>>>> 
>>>>> - improve performance or eliminate bottlenecks so that the
>>>>> app works with less threads
>>>>> 
>>>>> - limit you connector thread pool size. That will still
>>>>> mean that if requests begin to queue because of performance
>>>>> problems, the web server can't create additional
>>>>> connections, but you won't get in an irregular situation as
>>>>> you experience now. In that case you would need to
>>>>> configure a low idle timeout for the connections on the JK
>>>>>  and TC side.
>>>> 
>>>> It may also be possible to lower the thread stack size with
>>>> the -Xss option.
>>>> 
>>>> Ok so we are 64 bit Linux with 1024k in the 64-bit
>>>> VM....would lowering it to 64k be a bit too low? What sort of
>>>> repercussions would we run into? Very helpful information by
>>>> the way.
>>> 
>>> It depends on your apps, so you'll need to test and see.  If
>>> you go too low, you'll get StackOverflow exceptions.  If you
>>> see those, just gradually increase until they go away.
>>> 
>>> Dan
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -Isaac
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/hotspotfaq-138619.html#thread
>>>>
>>>> 
s_
>>>> 
>>>> 
> oom
>>>> 
>>>> Might buy you some room for a few additional threads.
>>>> 
>>>> Dan
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Rainer
>>>>> 
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>>> 
>>> Ok so the problem just happened again just now. Dan, Can you 
>>> elaborate on how to configure limiting the connector thread
>>> pool size. I am also going to lower the thread stack size as
>>> you recommended. It seems like this problem creeps up when we
>>> have a hiccup in connectivity at our data center. Perhaps I
>>> also need to lower the idle timeout some more between tomcat
>>> and mod_jk. They are also between a firewall by the way, so I
>>> can configure a timeout between the two there as well. We
>>> aren't experiencing too many idle disconnects there.
>> 
>> See maxConnections / maxThreads on the Connector tag.
>> 
>> http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-7.0-doc/config/http.html#Standard_Impl
>>
>> 
ementation
>> 
>> or Executor if you’re using an executor.
>> 
>> http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-7.0-doc/config/executor.html
> 
>> ... and you definitely *should* be using a manually-configured
>> Executor.
> 
>> - -chris
> 
> Chris, why should I be using a connector since we are only having
> users use the single 8009 AJP connection on each tomcat instance? I
> am the only one that uses the 8080 connector for troubleshooting
> and monitoring purposes. Is it mainly to help recycle unused
> threads?

Yes, you can better-manage all the thread-based resources using an
<Executor> rather than having one (or two) created for you
automatically by the connector.

- -chris
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