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George,

On 6/15/15 10:08 AM, George Stanchev wrote:
> Is there any chance for the OpenSSL-style ciphers to be backported 
> to the 7 release line?

I'm not sure. The biggest problem with the OpenSSL-style ciphers is
maintaining the mapping, which might change with every release of Java
and/or OpenSSL. Maintaining it in Tomcat's trunk and 8 is already
double the work... adding Tomcat 7 is even more work.

I think what might make sense is to wrap a command-line program around
the trunk/8.0.x utility that does the mapping to build something like
OpenSSL's "ciphers" command, but that dumps-out JSSE-style cipher suites
.

Then that could be used independently of any version of Tomcat for
those versions that don't directly-support the openssl-style cipher
suites configuration.

What do you think?

Another possibility would be to maintain the mapping somewhere other
than code (where it currently is), and then share that mapping between
the various versions, perhaps using svn external links. Then the
maping gets updated in a single place and all supporting versions of
Tomcat can pick it up.

I'll defer to markt who mostly wrote the OpenSSL-JSSE bridge code to
decide if that might work.

- -chris

> -----Original Message----- From: George Stanchev 
> [mailto:gstanc...@serena.com] Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 11:41 
> AM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: useServerCipherSuitesOrder
> in 7.0.62
> 
> Thanks Konstantin,
> 
> I apologize for the shortsightness. I guess I must have had a
> space in the search dialog. Thanks for the answers!
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> George
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: Konstantin Kolinko 
> [mailto:knst.koli...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 7:26 
> AM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: useServerCipherSuitesOrder
> in 7.0.62
> 
> 2015-06-13 15:36 GMT+03:00 George Stanchev <gstanc...@serena.com>:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I was looking at [1] and it looks the new attribute is available 
>> in 7.0.61 onwards as per Violeta's comment. However I cannot
>> find this new attribute in the HTTP connector documentation [2]
>> nor the changelog [3]. Can someone confirm or deny the
>> availability of this attribute (useServerCipherSuitesOrder) in
>> Tomcat 7.0.62.
> 
> 
> #55988 [1] is mentioned in the changelog, twice (7.0.61, 7.0.60).
> 
> "useServerCipherSuitesOrder" is mentioned in [2] (in "SSL Support
> - BIO and NIO" section).
> 
> Note that this feature requires running with Java 8.
> 
> 
>> As a follow up question, I seem to remember that 8.0.latest 
>> supports OpenSSL-style list for the HTTP connector "ciphers" 
>> attribute. Does 7.0.62 also support this or it wasn't 
>> backported?
> 
> 
> It was not backported.
> 
> Relevant classes are in package 
> org.apache.tomcat.util.net.jsse.openssl:
> 
> OpenSSLCipherConfigurationParser etc.
> 
>> 
>> [1] https://bz.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=55988 [2] 
>> https://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-7.0-doc/config/http.html [3] 
>> https://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-7.0-doc/changelog.html
> 
> Best regards, Konstantin Kolinko
> 
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