Am 05.10.2016 um 21:11 schrieb Christopher Schultz:
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All,

Apologies for off-topic post, but lots of folks here have lots of
different experiences and maybe someone has come across this.

I've got a few servers in Amazon EC2 running Amazon Linux. I'm using
the OpenJDK package, and I have versions 1.7.0 and 1.8.0 running
side-by-side:

$ java -version
java version "1.7.0_111"
OpenJDK Runtime Environment (amzn-2.6.7.2.68.amzn1-i386 u111-b01)
OpenJDK Client VM (build 24.111-b01, mixed mode, sharing)

$ java8 -version
openjdk version "1.8.0_101"
OpenJDK Runtime Environment (build 1.8.0_101-b13)
OpenJDK Server VM (build 25.101-b13, mixed mode)

For some reason, a whole slew of crypto support is flat-out /missing/
from those packages (java-1.7.0-openjdk and java-1.8.0-openjdk).
Here's what I get when I run my SSLInfo tool on the box:

$ java -showversion -classpath libs/chadis-tools-1.55.jar
com.chadis.tools.security.SSLInfo
java version "1.7.0_111"
OpenJDK Runtime Environment (amzn-2.6.7.2.68.amzn1-i386 u111-b01)
OpenJDK Client VM (build 24.111-b01, mixed mode, sharing)

Supported SSL Protocols:
  TLSv1 (SunJSSE)
  TLSv1.1 (SunJSSE)
  TLSv1.2 (SunJSSE)
Default Cipher Name
        SSL_DHE_DSS_EXPORT_WITH_DES40_CBC_SHA
*       SSL_DHE_DSS_WITH_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA
        SSL_DHE_DSS_WITH_DES_CBC_SHA
        SSL_DHE_RSA_EXPORT_WITH_DES40_CBC_SHA
*       SSL_DHE_RSA_WITH_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA
        SSL_DHE_RSA_WITH_DES_CBC_SHA
        SSL_DH_anon_EXPORT_WITH_DES40_CBC_SHA
        SSL_DH_anon_EXPORT_WITH_RC4_40_MD5
        SSL_DH_anon_WITH_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA
        SSL_DH_anon_WITH_DES_CBC_SHA
        SSL_DH_anon_WITH_RC4_128_MD5
        SSL_RSA_EXPORT_WITH_DES40_CBC_SHA
        SSL_RSA_EXPORT_WITH_RC4_40_MD5
*       SSL_RSA_WITH_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA
        SSL_RSA_WITH_DES_CBC_SHA
        SSL_RSA_WITH_NULL_MD5
        SSL_RSA_WITH_NULL_SHA
        SSL_RSA_WITH_RC4_128_MD5
        SSL_RSA_WITH_RC4_128_SHA
*       TLS_DHE_DSS_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA
*       TLS_DHE_DSS_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256
*       TLS_DHE_DSS_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA
*       TLS_DHE_DSS_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA256
*       TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA
*       TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256
*       TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA
*       TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA256
        TLS_DH_anon_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA
        TLS_DH_anon_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256
        TLS_DH_anon_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA
        TLS_DH_anon_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA256
*       TLS_EMPTY_RENEGOTIATION_INFO_SCSV
        TLS_KRB5_EXPORT_WITH_DES_CBC_40_MD5
        TLS_KRB5_EXPORT_WITH_DES_CBC_40_SHA
        TLS_KRB5_EXPORT_WITH_RC4_40_MD5
        TLS_KRB5_EXPORT_WITH_RC4_40_SHA
        TLS_KRB5_WITH_3DES_EDE_CBC_MD5
        TLS_KRB5_WITH_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA
        TLS_KRB5_WITH_DES_CBC_MD5
        TLS_KRB5_WITH_DES_CBC_SHA
        TLS_KRB5_WITH_RC4_128_MD5
        TLS_KRB5_WITH_RC4_128_SHA
*       TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA
*       TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256
*       TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA
*       TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA256
        TLS_RSA_WITH_NULL_SHA256

Note the complete lack of ECDH or ECDHE cipher suites. Now again with
Java 8:

$ java8 -showversion -classpath libs/chadis-tools-1.55.jar
com.chadis.tools.security.SSLInfo
openjdk version "1.8.0_101"
OpenJDK Runtime Environment (build 1.8.0_101-b13)
OpenJDK Server VM (build 25.101-b13, mixed mode)

Supported SSL Protocols:
  TLS (SunJSSE)
  TLSv1 (SunJSSE)
  TLSv1.1 (SunJSSE)
  TLSv1.2 (SunJSSE)
Default Cipher Name
        SSL_DHE_DSS_EXPORT_WITH_DES40_CBC_SHA
*       SSL_DHE_DSS_WITH_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA
        SSL_DHE_DSS_WITH_DES_CBC_SHA
        SSL_DHE_RSA_EXPORT_WITH_DES40_CBC_SHA
*       SSL_DHE_RSA_WITH_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA
        SSL_DHE_RSA_WITH_DES_CBC_SHA
        SSL_DH_anon_EXPORT_WITH_DES40_CBC_SHA
        SSL_DH_anon_EXPORT_WITH_RC4_40_MD5
        SSL_DH_anon_WITH_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA
        SSL_DH_anon_WITH_DES_CBC_SHA
        SSL_DH_anon_WITH_RC4_128_MD5
        SSL_RSA_EXPORT_WITH_DES40_CBC_SHA
        SSL_RSA_EXPORT_WITH_RC4_40_MD5
*       SSL_RSA_WITH_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA
        SSL_RSA_WITH_DES_CBC_SHA
        SSL_RSA_WITH_NULL_MD5
        SSL_RSA_WITH_NULL_SHA
        SSL_RSA_WITH_RC4_128_MD5
        SSL_RSA_WITH_RC4_128_SHA
*       TLS_DHE_DSS_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA
*       TLS_DHE_DSS_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256
*       TLS_DHE_DSS_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256
*       TLS_DHE_DSS_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA
*       TLS_DHE_DSS_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA256
*       TLS_DHE_DSS_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384
*       TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA
*       TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256
*       TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256
*       TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA
*       TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA256
*       TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384
        TLS_DH_anon_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA
        TLS_DH_anon_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256
        TLS_DH_anon_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256
        TLS_DH_anon_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA
        TLS_DH_anon_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA256
        TLS_DH_anon_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384
*       TLS_EMPTY_RENEGOTIATION_INFO_SCSV
        TLS_KRB5_EXPORT_WITH_DES_CBC_40_MD5
        TLS_KRB5_EXPORT_WITH_DES_CBC_40_SHA
        TLS_KRB5_EXPORT_WITH_RC4_40_MD5
        TLS_KRB5_EXPORT_WITH_RC4_40_SHA
        TLS_KRB5_WITH_3DES_EDE_CBC_MD5
        TLS_KRB5_WITH_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA
        TLS_KRB5_WITH_DES_CBC_MD5
        TLS_KRB5_WITH_DES_CBC_SHA
        TLS_KRB5_WITH_RC4_128_MD5
        TLS_KRB5_WITH_RC4_128_SHA
*       TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA
*       TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256
*       TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256
*       TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA
*       TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA256
*       TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384
        TLS_RSA_WITH_NULL_SHA256

If I run this on another box where Oracle's Java has been installed, I
get the full compliment:

$ /usr/local/java-8/bin/java -showversion -classpath build/classes/
com.chadis.tools.security.SSLInfo
java version "1.8.0_101"
Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.8.0_101-b13)
Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 25.101-b13, mixed mode)

Supported SSL Protocols:
  TLS (SunJSSE)
  TLSv1 (SunJSSE)
  TLSv1.1 (SunJSSE)
  TLSv1.2 (SunJSSE)
Default Cipher Name
        SSL_DHE_DSS_EXPORT_WITH_DES40_CBC_SHA
*       SSL_DHE_DSS_WITH_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA
        SSL_DHE_DSS_WITH_DES_CBC_SHA
        SSL_DHE_RSA_EXPORT_WITH_DES40_CBC_SHA
*       SSL_DHE_RSA_WITH_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA
        SSL_DHE_RSA_WITH_DES_CBC_SHA
        SSL_DH_anon_EXPORT_WITH_DES40_CBC_SHA
        SSL_DH_anon_EXPORT_WITH_RC4_40_MD5
        SSL_DH_anon_WITH_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA
        SSL_DH_anon_WITH_DES_CBC_SHA
        SSL_DH_anon_WITH_RC4_128_MD5
        SSL_RSA_EXPORT_WITH_DES40_CBC_SHA
        SSL_RSA_EXPORT_WITH_RC4_40_MD5
*       SSL_RSA_WITH_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA
        SSL_RSA_WITH_DES_CBC_SHA
        SSL_RSA_WITH_NULL_MD5
        SSL_RSA_WITH_NULL_SHA
        SSL_RSA_WITH_RC4_128_MD5
        SSL_RSA_WITH_RC4_128_SHA
*       TLS_DHE_DSS_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA
*       TLS_DHE_DSS_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256
*       TLS_DHE_DSS_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256
*       TLS_DHE_DSS_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA
*       TLS_DHE_DSS_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA256
*       TLS_DHE_DSS_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384
*       TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA
*       TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256
*       TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256
*       TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA
*       TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA256
*       TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384
        TLS_DH_anon_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA
        TLS_DH_anon_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256
        TLS_DH_anon_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256
        TLS_DH_anon_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA
        TLS_DH_anon_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA256
        TLS_DH_anon_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384
*       TLS_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA
*       TLS_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA
*       TLS_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256
*       TLS_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256
*       TLS_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA
*       TLS_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA384
*       TLS_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384
        TLS_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_NULL_SHA
        TLS_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_RC4_128_SHA
*       TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA
*       TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA
*       TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256
*       TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256
*       TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA
*       TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA384
*       TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384
        TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_NULL_SHA
        TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_RC4_128_SHA
*       TLS_ECDH_ECDSA_WITH_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA
*       TLS_ECDH_ECDSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA
*       TLS_ECDH_ECDSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256
*       TLS_ECDH_ECDSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256
*       TLS_ECDH_ECDSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA
*       TLS_ECDH_ECDSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA384
*       TLS_ECDH_ECDSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384
        TLS_ECDH_ECDSA_WITH_NULL_SHA
        TLS_ECDH_ECDSA_WITH_RC4_128_SHA
*       TLS_ECDH_RSA_WITH_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA
*       TLS_ECDH_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA
*       TLS_ECDH_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256
*       TLS_ECDH_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256
*       TLS_ECDH_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA
*       TLS_ECDH_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA384
*       TLS_ECDH_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384
        TLS_ECDH_RSA_WITH_NULL_SHA
        TLS_ECDH_RSA_WITH_RC4_128_SHA
        TLS_ECDH_anon_WITH_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA
        TLS_ECDH_anon_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA
        TLS_ECDH_anon_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA
        TLS_ECDH_anon_WITH_NULL_SHA
        TLS_ECDH_anon_WITH_RC4_128_SHA
*       TLS_EMPTY_RENEGOTIATION_INFO_SCSV
        TLS_KRB5_EXPORT_WITH_DES_CBC_40_MD5
        TLS_KRB5_EXPORT_WITH_DES_CBC_40_SHA
        TLS_KRB5_EXPORT_WITH_RC4_40_MD5
        TLS_KRB5_EXPORT_WITH_RC4_40_SHA
        TLS_KRB5_WITH_3DES_EDE_CBC_MD5
        TLS_KRB5_WITH_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA
        TLS_KRB5_WITH_DES_CBC_MD5
        TLS_KRB5_WITH_DES_CBC_SHA
        TLS_KRB5_WITH_RC4_128_MD5
        TLS_KRB5_WITH_RC4_128_SHA
*       TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA
*       TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256
*       TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256
*       TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA
*       TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA256
*       TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384
        TLS_RSA_WITH_NULL_SHA256

I've tried a few things. First, checking to see if any algorithms have
been artificially suppressed:

The security policy has these algorithms disabled:

jdk.tls.disabledAlgorithms=SSLv3, RC4, MD5withRSA, DH keySize < 768

I'm okay with all those.

I've installed the "Java Unlimited Strength Policy Files" which may or
may not have been necessary (in general) but that doesn't enable the
ECDH/ECDHE cipher suites, anyway.

The only promising suggestion I've read online is to install the
Bouncy Castle crypto provider, except that provider is 100% Java and
I'd prefer to get (what little) acceleration the native implementation
can provide.

Do I need to abandon OpenJDK in order to get a decent selection of
cipher suites? Or is there a package I have not installed, or a
setting I haven't tweaked somewhere to get this working?

Coincidentally I an currently involved in a project which forced customers to download EC support for OpenJDK as a separate package due to license limitations. EC support in Oracle JDK is provided by the Sun EC provider which consists of a jar file sunec.jar plus (and therein lies the real impl) a native library (libsunec.so on Unix/Linux). These files seem to have been removed from OpenJDK due to license restrictions or policies.

I found two texts related to this:

http://armoredbarista.blogspot.de/2013/10/how-to-use-ecc-with-openjdk.html

and

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1167153

I do not know, whether AWS really does not include the Sun EC jar file and/or library (then your observation would be explained by this) or whether the root cause on AWS is something else.

Regards,

Rainer

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