thanks, our monitor is getting the result from the tomcat manager page which 
provides the busy threads count and totol threads count
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从myMail的Android专用app所发送 星期三, 18 一月 2017, 06:08下午 +08:00 发件人 André Warnier 
(tomcat)  a...@ice-sa.com :

>On 18.01.2017 10:56, smith wrote:
>> Hi, André
>>
>> Thanks for the great explanation. So the current thread count will grow 
>> always until it reaches to the max configuration.
>>
>> I have another strange thing:
>> We never monitored tomcat busy thread count high (we monitored one minutes 
>> interval through Nagios to get tomcat manager result, not high than 10). So 
>> if the threads grows, it should monitored the busy thread count reach that 
>> high(or some lower). So I'm still not understand when the current thread 
>> count will grow while current busy thread has not change a lot.
>>
>
>I think that if you combine my explanation of the KeepAlive effect, with 
>Philippe's notes, 
>you may get the explanation.
>I would personally guess that your monitoring agent does not consider a thread 
>that is 
>idle in KeepAlive state, as "busy".  So it only counts as busy, the threads 
>which are 
>effectively in the state of processing a request.
>(This is just a guess; I think you may want to draw a little time-dependent 
>diagram, to 
>see what really happens, with a KeepAlive of 20 seconds, and ping or heartbeat 
>requests 
>coming in regularly.)
>In any case, if you want to avoid this phenomenon altogether, try configuring 
>an Executor. 
>You need to configure the <Executor> itself, and then in your <Connector>, 
>refer to that 
>Executor).
>
>
>
>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: André Warnier (tomcat) [mailto:a...@ice-sa.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 9:41 AM
>> To:  users@tomcat.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: FW: tomcat 8080 thread not reduced
>>
>> Hi.
>>
>> I believe that what Philippe mentions below is somewhat different : in his 
>> configuration, there is apparently a front-end httpd server, which 
>> communicates with Tomcat via AJP and the tomcat AJP Connector.
>> In such a case, the "mod_jk" or "mod_proxy_ajp" connector module inside of 
>> httpd, creates a series of connections to the back-end tomcat, and keeps 
>> these connections alive in a pool of connections, according to rules which 
>> are different, than what applies to your case (which consists of direct HTTP 
>> connections from browsers, to the tomcat HTTP connector).
>> So Philippe's case introduces probably an additional level of complexity 
>> into the equation.
>> semi-graphically :
>>
>> smith case :
>>
>> client <- HTTP -> tomcat HTTP connector - tomcat thread
>>
>> Philippe's case :
>>
>> client <- HTTP -> apache httpd + ajp module <- AJP -> tomcat AJP connector - 
>> tomcat thread
>>
>> The real question is :
>>
>> The tomcat 8.0 HTTP Connector documentation
>> ( http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-8.0-doc/config/http.html ) mentions a 
>> series of attributes/parameters (maxThreads, minSpareThreads, 
>> connectionTimeout,
>> keepAliveTimeout,..) which, together, would lead one to believe that tomcat 
>> is managing the number of threads dynamically (increasing the number of 
>> threads (up to maxThreads) when needed to process simultaneous requests, and 
>> decreasing the number of threads again (down to minSpareThreads) when less 
>> requests are being processed).
>>
>> According to observations however (and to Chris' comments), that does not 
>> seem to be the case : once the number of threads has grown to a certain 
>> number, it never goes down back down again.
>> It has to be said that the above interpretation was mine, and the current 
>> documentation of the HTTP Connector never says explicitly that, on its own, 
>> it manages the number of threads dynamically. But it *does* mention a 
>> minSpareThreads parameter.
>>
>> On the other hand, when you use an Executor 
>> (http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-8.0-doc/config/executor.html), then the 
>> documentation states explicitly that the number of threads *is* dynamically 
>> managed, up and down.
>>
>> I found something else which seems to explain the riddle :
>>
>>  http://tomcat.apache.org/migration-6.html#Connector_thread_pools
>> That section explicitly says that since tomcat 6.0, for a Connector without 
>> an Executor, the number of threads always grows, and never decreases. And it 
>> also explicitly says that the Connector's "minSpareThreads" attribute will 
>> be ignored.
>>
>> So in fact the only thing wrong, is the online documentation for the 
>> Connectors : the minSpareThreads attribute should be removed (since it is 
>> anyway ignored).
>> That seems to have been an oversight ever since tomcat 6.0.
>>
>> As far as I am concerned thus, the mystery is solved.
>>
>> One question which is a bit left open is :
>>
>> What - if any - is the real advantage/disadvantage of having perhaps 
>> maxThreads idle threads, as opposed to using an Executor to manage the 
>> number of threads dynamically ?
>> But that is probably the kind of question to which the appropriate answer is 
>> : "it depends.."
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 18.01.2017 07:33, smith wrote:
>>> Thanks, Philippe
>>>
>>> But we never monitored tomcat busy thread count high (we monitored one 
>>> minutes interval through nagios to get tomcat manager result, not high than 
>>> 10). This is strange
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Philippe Busque [mailto:pbus...@mediagrif.com]
>>> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 8:09 PM
>>> To:  users@tomcat.apache.org
>>> Subject: Re: Re: FW: tomcat 8080 thread not reduced
>>>
>>> We're having a similar issues with our numberous Tomcat instances.
>>>
>>> Our connector config look like this.
>>>
>>>        <Connector port="8910"  protocol="AJP/1.3" maxThreads="200"
>>> enableLookups="false" redirectPort="8443" acceptCount="100"
>>> connectionTimeout="20000"  URIEncoding="UTF-8" />
>>>
>>>
>>> Sometime, the number of active connection would jump very high (up to 190), 
>>> due to some external issues (database lock, etc) and threads would 
>>> accumulate.
>>>
>>> Even though a connectionTimeout is set, and therefor set keepAliveTimeout 
>>> as the same value,  threads are never released once the problem is  
>>> resolved until Tomcat is restarted.  We would end up with maybe 5-10 busy 
>>> workers, but 190 idle workers/ threads
>>>
>>> I think the issue is related to how the StandardThreadExecutor is 
>>> implemented. The StandardThreadExecutor is a front for the default Java 
>>> ThreadPoolExecutor.  If I'm not mistaken, ThreadPoolExecutor is 
>>> distributing work in round robin fashion among all defined workers, rather 
>>> than sticking to the core threads.
>>>
>>>
>>> As a result, should a website has any constant traffic (Apache AJP ping, 
>>> load balancer monitoring, normal traffic, etc), all thread will be hit at 
>>> least once within the configured  keepAliveTimeout, reseting it. So unless 
>>> the keepAliveTimeout is set to a very low value, which defeat the purpose, 
>>> thread will never be released .
>>>
>>>
>>> This is what I've come to suspect from looking at the 
>>> StandardThreadExecutor, but never really had the opportunity to do deeper 
>>> test with load.
>>> But from Tomcat 6 to tomcat 8, we were never able to  decrease the number 
>>> of 'idle' workers back from the highest value it had reached.
>>>
>>>
>>> Le 2017-01-16 à 05:24, André Warnier (tomcat) a écrit :
>>>> On 16.01.2017 11:10, smith wrote:
>>>>> We has same problem on dev env that no any traffic to the serive,
>>>>
>>>> Ah. That is /new/ information, which may change the suggestions below.
>>>> It looks like you should really find out what these threads are doing,
>>>> probably by doing a few thread dumps.
>>>> See here e.g. :
>>>>  http://stackoverflow.com/questions/18573411/tomcat-thread-dump
>>>>
>>>> Again : we do not know your application, so we can only make guesses
>>>> based on the information that you provide.
>>>>
>>>>    will try on dev first
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: André Warnier (tomcat) [mailto:a...@ice-sa.com]
>>>>> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 10:08 AM
>>>>> To:  users@tomcat.apache.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: FW: tomcat 8080 thread not reduced
>>>>>
>>>>> On 16.01.2017 09:50, smith wrote:
>>>>>> Busy one is process customer request, do not know what non-busy one
>>>>>> is doing, always keep 120 for many days. I don't think 20s timeout
>>>>>> will not cause so long connection
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -smith
>>>>>
>>>>> And did you actually try it ?
>>>>>
>>>>> We do not know your website or your application, so we cannot tell
>>>>> how many clients there are, what these clients are really requesting,
>>>>> how many requests each client is sending before going away, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> KeepAlive means that when a client has sent its /last/ request and
>>>>> received the response, one thread is going to remain "not free" (but
>>>>> doing nothing) for the duration of the KeepAlive timeout. This thread
>>>>> will keep waiting, for KeepAliveTimeout seconds, just in case the
>>>>> client would still send another request (which it may never do,
>>>>> depending on the application).
>>>>>
>>>>> Imagine that your application is so that the average client
>>>>> - connects to your site
>>>>> - sends a single HTTP request, which gets processed in 0.1 s
>>>>> - receives the response
>>>>> - and then goes away
>>>>> and that the above sequence happens once every second, from different
>>>>> clients.
>>>>> After one second, there will be one thread waiting for another 19
>>>>> seconds before becoming free (and potentially destroyed or re-used).
>>>>> After 2 seconds, there will be 2 such threads. After 3 seconds, 3
>>>>> threads. And so on. After 20 seconds, the first thread will be freed,
>>>>> but there will be 19 other threads still waiting, and one new thread
>>>>> just created.
>>>>> If everything stays perfectly regular like that, your will have
>>>>> /permanently/ 20 threads in existence, even if the minimum is 10.
>>>>> If you change the above so that there is a new client every 0.5 s,
>>>>> you will have permanently 40 threads (of which only 2 maximum are
>>>>> really doing something).
>>>>>
>>>>> The point is : KeepAlive is not "bad", and in some cases having a
>>>>> relatively long KeepAliveTimeout is the right thing to do. Also,
>>>>> having a high number of threads sitting idle is not necessarily a
>>>>> problem.
>>>>> Your own scenario is probably not like the above perfectly regular
>>>>> and irrealistic one above. But there may be a perfectly logical
>>>>> reason why you have so many threads on average, and I am just trying
>>>>> to give you ideas for finding out the reason.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: André Warnier (tomcat) [mailto:a...@ice-sa.com]
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 8:33 AM
>>>>>> To:  users@tomcat.apache.org
>>>>>> Subject: Re: FW: tomcat 8080 thread not reduced
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 16.01.2017 03:41, Smith Hua wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> actually there is not much busy threads, less tahn 10,so i think
>>>>>>> this parameter may has nothing to do with this
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It depends on what you call "busy". What are the busy ones doing ?
>>>>>> and what are the non-busy ones doing ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> 从myMail的Android专用app所发送 星期一, 16 一月 2017, 03:01上午 +08:00
>>>>>>> 发件人 André Warnier (tomcat)  a...@ice-sa.com :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I can find nothing really wrong in your configuration below.
>>>>>>>> But, what happens if in this section :
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>       >      <Connector port="8080" protocol="HTTP/1.1"
>>>>>>>>       >                 maxThreads="300" connectionTimeout="20000"
>>>>>>>>       >                 redirectPort="8443" />
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> you change the connectionTimeout to 3000 (= 3 seconds, instead of
>>>>>>>> the above 20 seconds) ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Do you still see the number of threads remaining at the maximum ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> See :
>>>>>>>>  http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-8.0-doc/config/http.html#Standard_
>>>>>>>> Im
>>>>>>>> plementation
>>>>>>>> --> connectionTimeout
>>>>>>>> and the fact that it is also the default for keepAliveTimeout
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 14.01.2017 07:30, smith wrote:
>>>>>>>>> The server.xml:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <?xml version='1.0' encoding='utf-8'?>
>>>>>>>>> <!--
>>>>>>>>>         Licensed to the Apache Software Foundation (ASF) under one
>>>>>>>>> or more
>>>>>>>>>         contributor license agreements.  See the NOTICE file
>>>>>>>>> distributed with
>>>>>>>>>         this work for additional information regarding copyright
>>>>>>>>> ownership.
>>>>>>>>>         The ASF licenses this file to You under the Apache License,
>>>>>>>>> Version 2.0
>>>>>>>>>         (the "License"); you may not use this file except in
>>>>>>>>> compliance with
>>>>>>>>>         the License.  You may obtain a copy of the License at
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         Unless required by applicable law or agreed to in writing,
>>>>>>>>> software
>>>>>>>>>         distributed under the License is distributed on an "AS IS"
>>>>>>>>> BASIS,
>>>>>>>>>         WITHOUT WARRANTIES OR CONDITIONS OF ANY KIND, either
>>>>>>>>> express or implied.
>>>>>>>>>         See the License for the specific language governing
>>>>>>>>> permissions and
>>>>>>>>>         limitations under the License.
>>>>>>>>> -->
>>>>>>>>> <!-- Note:  A "Server" is not itself a "Container", so you may not
>>>>>>>>>            define subcomponents such as "Valves" at this level.
>>>>>>>>>            Documentation at /docs/config/server.html
>>>>>>>>>        -->
>>>>>>>>> <Server port="8005" shutdown="SHUTDOWN">
>>>>>>>>>         <Listener
>>>>>>>>> className="org.apache.catalina.startup.VersionLoggerListener" />
>>>>>>>>>         <!-- Security listener. Documentation at
>>>>>>>>> /docs/config/listeners.html
>>>>>>>>>         <Listener
>>>>>>>>> className="org.apache.catalina.security.SecurityListener" />
>>>>>>>>>         -->
>>>>>>>>>         <!--APR library loader. Documentation at /docs/apr.html -->
>>>>>>>>>         <Listener
>>>>>>>>> className="org.apache.catalina.core.AprLifecycleListener"
>>>>>>>>> SSLEngine="on" />
>>>>>>>>>         <!-- Prevent memory leaks due to use of particular
>>>>>>>>> java/javax APIs-->
>>>>>>>>>         <Listener
>>>>>>>>> className="org.apache.catalina.core.JreMemoryLeakPreventionListener"
>>>>>>>>> />
>>>>>>>>>         <Listener
>>>>>>>>> className="org.apache.catalina.mbeans.GlobalResourcesLifecycleListener"
>>>>>>>>> />
>>>>>>>>>         <Listener
>>>>>>>>> className="org.apache.catalina.core.ThreadLocalLeakPreventionListener"
>>>>>>>>> />
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         <!-- Global JNDI resources
>>>>>>>>>              Documentation at /docs/jndi-resources-howto.html
>>>>>>>>>         -->
>>>>>>>>>         <GlobalNamingResources>
>>>>>>>>>           <!-- Editable user database that can also be used by
>>>>>>>>>                UserDatabaseRealm to authenticate users
>>>>>>>>>           -->
>>>>>>>>>           <Resource name="UserDatabase" auth="Container"
>>>>>>>>> type="org.apache.catalina.UserDatabase"
>>>>>>>>>                     description="User database that can be updated
>>>>>>>>> and saved"
>>>>>>>>> factory="org.apache.catalina.users.MemoryUserDatabaseFactory"
>>>>>>>>>                     pathname="conf/tomcat-users.xml" />
>>>>>>>>>         </GlobalNamingResources>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         <!-- A "Service" is a collection of one or more
>>>>>>>>> "Connectors" that share
>>>>>>>>>              a single "Container" Note:  A "Service" is not itself
>>>>>>>>> a "Container",
>>>>>>>>>              so you may not define subcomponents such as "Valves"
>>>>>>>>> at this level.
>>>>>>>>>              Documentation at /docs/config/service.html
>>>>>>>>>          -->
>>>>>>>>>         <Service name="Catalina">
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>           <!--The connectors can use a shared executor, you can
>>>>>>>>> define one or more named thread pools-->
>>>>>>>>>           <!--
>>>>>>>>>           <Executor name="tomcatThreadPool"
>>>>>>>>> namePrefix="catalina-exec-"
>>>>>>>>>               maxThreads="150" minSpareThreads="4"/>
>>>>>>>>>           -->
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>           <!-- A "Connector" represents an endpoint by which
>>>>>>>>> requests are received
>>>>>>>>>                and responses are returned. Documentation at :
>>>>>>>>>                Java HTTP Connector: /docs/config/http.html
>>>>>>>>> (blocking & non-blocking)
>>>>>>>>>                Java AJP  Connector: /docs/config/ajp.html
>>>>>>>>>                APR (HTTP/AJP) Connector: /docs/apr.html
>>>>>>>>>                Define a non-SSL HTTP/1.1 Connector on port 8080
>>>>>>>>>           -->
>>>>>>>>>           <Connector port="8080" protocol="HTTP/1.1"
>>>>>>>>>                      maxThreads="300" connectionTimeout="20000"
>>>>>>>>>                      redirectPort="8443" />
>>>>>>>>>           <!-- A "Connector" using the shared thread pool-->
>>>>>>>>>           <!--
>>>>>>>>>           <Connector executor="tomcatThreadPool"
>>>>>>>>>                      port="8080" protocol="HTTP/1.1"
>>>>>>>>>                      connectionTimeout="20000"
>>>>>>>>>                      redirectPort="8443" />
>>>>>>>>>           -->
>>>>>>>>>           <!-- Define a SSL HTTP/1.1 Connector on port 8443
>>>>>>>>>                This connector uses the NIO implementation that
>>>>>>>>> requires the JSSE
>>>>>>>>>                style configuration. When using the APR/native
>>>>>>>>> implementation, the
>>>>>>>>>                OpenSSL style configuration is required as described
>>>>>>>>> in the APR/native
>>>>>>>>>                documentation -->
>>>>>>>>>           <!--
>>>>>>>>>           <Connector port="8443"
>>>>>>>>> protocol="org.apache.coyote.http11.Http11NioProtocol"
>>>>>>>>>                      maxThreads="150" SSLEnabled="true"
>>>>>>>>> scheme="https" secure="true"
>>>>>>>>>                      clientAuth="false" sslProtocol="TLS" />
>>>>>>>>>           -->
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>           <!-- Define an AJP 1.3 Connector on port 8009 -->
>>>>>>>>>           <Connector port="8009" protocol="AJP/1.3"
>>>>>>>>> redirectPort="8443" />
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>           <!-- An Engine represents the entry point (within
>>>>>>>>> Catalina) that processes
>>>>>>>>>                every request.  The Engine implementation for Tomcat
>>>>>>>>> stand alone
>>>>>>>>>                analyzes the HTTP headers included with the request,
>>>>>>>>> and passes them
>>>>>>>>>                on to the appropriate Host (virtual host).
>>>>>>>>>                Documentation at /docs/config/engine.html -->
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>           <!-- You should set jvmRoute to support load-balancing
>>>>>>>>> via AJP ie :
>>>>>>>>>           <Engine name="Catalina" defaultHost="localhost"
>>>>>>>>> jvmRoute="jvm1">
>>>>>>>>>           -->
>>>>>>>>>           <Engine name="Catalina" defaultHost="localhost">
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             <!--For clustering, please take a look at documentation
>>>>>>>>> at:
>>>>>>>>>                 /docs/cluster-howto.html  (simple how to)
>>>>>>>>>                 /docs/config/cluster.html (reference documentation)
>>>>>>>>> -->
>>>>>>>>>             <!--
>>>>>>>>>             <Cluster
>>>>>>>>> className="org.apache.catalina.ha.tcp.SimpleTcpCluster"/>
>>>>>>>>>             -->
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             <!-- Use the LockOutRealm to prevent attempts to guess
>>>>>>>>> user passwords
>>>>>>>>>                  via a brute-force attack -->
>>>>>>>>>             <Realm className="org.apache.catalina.realm.LockOutRealm">
>>>>>>>>>               <!-- This Realm uses the UserDatabase configured in
>>>>>>>>> the global JNDI
>>>>>>>>>                    resources under the key "UserDatabase".  Any edits
>>>>>>>>>                    that are performed against this UserDatabase are
>>>>>>>>> immediately
>>>>>>>>>                    available for use by the Realm.  -->
>>>>>>>>>               <Realm
>>>>>>>>> className="org.apache.catalina.realm.UserDatabaseRealm"
>>>>>>>>>                      resourceName="UserDatabase"/>
>>>>>>>>>             </Realm>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             <Host name="localhost"  appBase="webapps"
>>>>>>>>>                   unpackWARs="true" autoDeploy="true">
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>               <!-- SingleSignOn valve, share authentication between
>>>>>>>>> web applications
>>>>>>>>>                    Documentation at: /docs/config/valve.html -->
>>>>>>>>>               <!--
>>>>>>>>>               <Valve
>>>>>>>>> className="org.apache.catalina.authenticator.SingleSignOn" />
>>>>>>>>>               -->
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>               <!-- Access log processes all example.
>>>>>>>>>                    Documentation at: /docs/config/valve.html
>>>>>>>>>                    Note: The pattern used is equivalent to using
>>>>>>>>> pattern="common" -->
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>       <Valve className="org.apache.catalina.valves.AccessLogValve"
>>>>>>>>> directory="logs"
>>>>>>>>>                      prefix="localhost_access_log" suffix=".txt"
>>>>>>>>> pattern="%h,%t,%m,%U,%H,%s,%B,%D,%{User-Agent}i" />
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>               <Context path="" allowLinking="true"
>>>>>>>>> crossContext="true" docBase="/****/t" sessionCookieName="****" />
>>>>>>>>>             </Host>
>>>>>>>>>           </Engine>
>>>>>>>>>         </Service>
>>>>>>>>> </Server>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: André Warnier (tomcat) [mailto:a...@ice-sa.com]
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 10:42 AM
>>>>>>>>> To:  users@tomcat.apache.org
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: FW: tomcat 8080 thread not reduced
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 13.01.2017 09:38, smith wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> From: smith [mailto:smith....@zoom.us]
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 9:57 AM
>>>>>>>>>> To: 'users'
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: tomcat 8080 thread not reduced
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We have installed Apache Tomcat/8.0.14, and found that after one
>>>>>>>>>> period of time, the thread count for 8080(our port published)
>>>>>>>>>> goes to 120 and never reduced even the busy count is only 3-4.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Why? Tomcat8 not reduced the thread pool even the thread is
>>>>>>>>>> idle, and the minSpareThreads for tomcat8 default is only 10.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> When will the thread reduce?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Smith
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Please copy/paste your complete server.xml configuration file
>>>>>>>>> (confidential things removed), so that we could have a useful
>>>>>>>>> look at it.
>>>>>>>>> Please edit *only* the confidential things, not entire sections.
>>>>>>>>> Often, the issue is in the details.
>>>>>>>>>
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