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> From: John Dale <jcdw...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2019 1:57:10 AM
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> Subject: Re: Tomcat session management with Redisson
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> Regarding clustering and state recovery, I opted some time ago to
> store session information in the database - I prefer full control over
> session state for security/obscurity reasons.
>
> Load balancing is straightforward this way.
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> I'm not sure I would ever need more than 2 nodes for my purposes,
> though, since Java can address such a huge memory space.  It's an
> amazing computing environment now compared to what we had 20 years
> ago.
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> On 2/18/19, Christopher Schultz <ch...@christopherschultz.net> wrote:
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>> Herb,
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>> On 2/18/19 13:59, Herb Burnswell wrote:
>>> On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 12:21 PM Christopher Schultz <
>>> ch...@christopherschultz.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Herb,
>>>
>>> On 2/14/19 12:41, Herb Burnswell wrote:
>>>>>> Tomcat 8.5.23 RHEL   7.5
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We are looking to set up session management via Redisson to
>>>>>> offload the CPU consumption of using Tomcat's built in
>>>>>> clustering session management.  We have CPU licensing limits
>>>>>> and need to conserve as much CPU as possible.
>>>
>>> Dumb question: aren't you just going to move the CPU cycles to
>>> another system?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Thanks for the reply.  Short answer, yes.  But that is the idea.
>>>> We can only use 2 CPU's per application node (3 nodes) with our
>>>> licensing structure so we do not want to take cycles away from
>>>> the application to manage sessions.
>>
>> Okay, so if you move the session-management to another machine, you
>> don't have to pay app-license fees for the session-management server?
>> Fair enough.
>>
>> Just remember that you still need code "managing" sessions from your
>> Tomcat note to your Redisson server. I can't imagine that the
>> Tomcat->Resisson code would be any less complicated than the Tomcat ->
>> Tomcat code. You might want to validate that assumption before
>> committing any resources toward solving a problem by adding complexity
>> to your deployments.
>>
>>> Another dumb question: do you actually need clustering?
>>>
>>>
>>>> If I'm using the term correctly, yes.  The idea would be for HA
>>>> functionality; If users were connected to node 3 and the node
>>>> failed for some reason, their session would be picked up by node
>>>> 1 or 2 uninterrupted.  Sorry if I confused the intent.
>>
>> That's exactly what you will get.
>>
>> If you do NOT use clustering, a failed node will require the users who
>> were on the failed node to re-login to a surviving node. Only you can
>> determine whether that is an acceptable consequence of a failed node
>> for your users and application. I, as well as many others, have
>> decided that fail-over is such a rare event and logins such a
>> non-issue that introducing the complexity of clustering is not justified
>> .
>>
>>>>>> I have never set up a configuration this way, however I have
>>>>>> Redis set up and running as 1 Master, 1 Slave.  I seemingly
>>>>>> just need to point our application to it.  I have read this
>>>>>> doc on how to:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://github.com/redisson/redisson/tree/master/redisson-tomcat
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>> It seems pretty straight forward except for the redisson.conf
>>>>>> configuration:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Add RedissonSessionManager into tomcat/conf/context.xml
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <Manager
>>>>>> className="org.redisson.tomcat.RedissonSessionManager"
>>>>>> configPath="${catalina.base}/redisson.conf" readMode="REDIS"
>>>>>> updateMode="DEFAULT"/>
>>>
>>> I would do this in the application's context.xml file instead of
>>> the global/default one. That means modifying the application's
>>> META-INF/context.xml file, or, if you deploy via files from
>>> outside your WAR/dir application, then
>>> conf/[engine]/[hostname]/[appname].xml.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Yes, this is requiring the editing a application specific xml
>>>> file.
>>
>> Good.
>>
>>>>>> I am more familiar with YAML so plan on configuring the
>>>>>> redisson.conf as such.  I have read the referenced
>>>>>> configuration wiki page:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://github.com/redisson/redisson/wiki/2.-Configuration
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However, it has a great deal of options and I'm not sure what
>>>>>> is and is not needed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am reaching out here on the Tomcat user group to see if
>>>>>> anyone else is using Redisson for session management and if
>>>>>> maybe I can get some guidance on a basic redisson.conf
>>>>>> configuration.  I'd also be interested in comments on if
>>>>>> there are better options or things to watch out for.
>>>
>>> I don't have any experience with either Redis or Redisson, but what
>>> is wrong with the default/sample configuration you have provided
>>> above?
>>>
>>>
>>>> I have through much trial and error been using this config:
>>>
>>>> { "masterSlaveServersConfig":{ "idleConnectionTimeout":10000,
>>>> "connectTimeout":10000, "timeout":3000, "retryAttempts":3,
>>>> "retryInterval":1500, "failedSlaveReconnectionInterval":3000,
>>>> "failedSlaveCheckInterval":60000, "password":"<master_pass>",
>>>> "subscriptionsPerConnection":5, "clientName":true,
>>>> "subscriptionConnectionMinimumIdleSize":1,
>>>> "subscriptionConnectionPoolSize":50,
>>>> "slaveConnectionMinimumIdleSize":32,
>>>> "slaveConnectionPoolSize":64,
>>>> "masterConnectionMinimumIdleSize":32,
>>>> "masterConnectionPoolSize":64, "readMode":"SLAVE",
>>>> "subscriptionMode":"SLAVE", "slaveAddresses":[
>>>> "<slave.example.com:6379" ],
>>>> "masterAddress":"<master.example.com>:6379", "database":0 },
>>>> "threads":0, "nettyThreads":0, "transportMode":"NIO" }
>>>
>>>> However, I am getting a couple exceptions and am not sure what
>>>> might be the issue:
>>
>> Okay, let's take a look:
>>
>>>> INFO   | jvm 1    | main    | 2019/02/18 10:09:33.068 | Feb 18,
>>>> 2019 10:09:33 AM org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext
>>>> startInternal INFO   | jvm 1    | main    | 2019/02/18
>>>> 10:09:33.068 | SEVERE: The session manager failed to start
>>
>> Wow, this stack trace is tough to read. :(
>>
>>>> INFO   | jvm 1    | main    | 2019/02/18 10:09:33.068 |
>>>> org.apache.catalina.LifecycleException: Failed to start
>>>> component [org.redisson.tomcat.RedissonSessionManager[]] INFO   |
>>>> jvm 1    | main    | 2019/02/18 10:09:33.068 |         at
>>>> org.apache.catalina.util.LifecycleBase.start(LifecycleBase.java:167)
>>>>
>>>>
>> INFO   | jvm 1    | main    | 2019/02/18 10:09:33.068 |         at
>>>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext.startInternal(StandardContex
>> t.java:5224)
>>>>
>>>>
>> INFO   | jvm 1    | main    | 2019/02/18 10:09:33.068 |         at
>>>> org.apache.catalina.util.LifecycleBase.start(LifecycleBase.java:150)
>>>>
>>>>
>> INFO   | jvm 1    | main    | 2019/02/18 10:09:33.068 |         at
>>>> org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase$StartChild.call(ContainerBase.
>> java:1419)
>>>>
>>>>
>> INFO   | jvm 1    | main    | 2019/02/18 10:09:33.068 |         at
>>>> org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase$StartChild.call(ContainerBase.
>> java:1409)
>>>>
>>>>
>> INFO   | jvm 1    | main    | 2019/02/18 10:09:33.068 |         at
>>>> java.util.concurrent.FutureTask.run(FutureTask.java:266) INFO   |
>>>> jvm 1    | main    | 2019/02/18 10:09:33.068 |         at
>>>> java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor.runWorker(ThreadPoolExecutor.
>> java:1149)
>>>>
>>>>
>> INFO   | jvm 1    | main    | 2019/02/18 10:09:33.068 |         at
>>>> java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.run(ThreadPoolExecutor
>> .java:624)
>>>>
>>>>
>> INFO   | jvm 1    | main    | 2019/02/18 10:09:33.068 |         at
>>>> java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:748) INFO   | jvm 1    | main
>>>> | 2019/02/18 10:09:33.068 | Caused by:
>>>> org.apache.catalina.LifecycleException:
>>>> java.lang.NullPointerException INFO   | jvm 1    | main    |
>>>> 2019/02/18 10:09:33.068 |         at
>>>> org.redisson.tomcat.RedissonSessionManager.buildClient(RedissonSessio
>> nManager.java:279)
>>>>
>>>>
>> INFO   | jvm 1    | main    | 2019/02/18 10:09:33.068 |         at
>>>> org.redisson.tomcat.RedissonSessionManager.startInternal(RedissonSess
>> ionManager.java:209)
>>
>> It
>>>>
>> looks like your SessionManager (from Redisson) is failing to start
>> up. If you can look at the source, you might be able to see some kind
>> of missing configuration parameter and fix it. Or you could ask the
>> Redisson community what you might be missing. I've never even heard of
>> Redisson and I've been on this list for ... 15 years. Perhaps someone
>> else here can chime-in and help, but I wouldn't bet on it.
>>
>> Or there could be a bug in Redisson. For that, you'll have to approach
>> that community for help, of course. I would consider a SessionManager
>> throwing an NPE to be a bug. If there is some kind of required
>> configuration, the SessionManager should emit a helpful message like
>> "masterAddress is required" or somesuch.
>>
>>>> INFO   | jvm 1    | main    | 2019/02/18 10:09:33.068 |
>>>> at
>>>> org.apache.catalina.util.LifecycleBase.start(LifecycleBase.java:150)
>>>>
>>>>
>> INFO   | jvm 1    | main    | 2019/02/18 10:09:33.068 |         ... 8 mo
>> re
>>>> INFO   | jvm 1    | main    | 2019/02/18 10:09:33.068 | Caused
>>>> by: java.lang.NullPointerException
>>
>> Hmm, the plot thickens. The NPE is not in the SessionManager; it's in
>> the netty client?
>>
>>>> INFO   | jvm 1    | main    | 2019/02/18 10:09:33.068 |
>>>> at io.netty.util.NetUtil.isValidIpV4Address(NetUtil.java:648)
>>>> INFO   | jvm 1    | main    | 2019/02/18 10:09:33.068 |
>>>> at
>>>> io.netty.util.NetUtil.createByteArrayFromIpAddressString(NetUtil.java
>> :368)
>>>>
>>>>
>> INFO   | jvm 1    | main    | 2019/02/18 10:09:33.068 |         at
>>>> org.redisson.client.RedisClient.resolveAddr(RedisClient.java:172)
>>>>
>>>>
>> INFO   | jvm 1    | main    | 2019/02/18 10:09:33.068 |         at
>>>> org.redisson.connection.MasterSlaveEntry.addSlave(MasterSlaveEntry.ja
>> va:303)
>>>>
>>>>
>> INFO   | jvm 1    | main    | 2019/02/18 10:09:33.068 |         at
>>>> org.redisson.connection.MasterSlaveEntry.addSlave(MasterSlaveEntry.ja
>> va:345)
>>>>
>>>>
>> INFO   | jvm 1    | main    | 2019/02/18 10:09:33.068 |         at
>>>> org.redisson.connection.MasterSlaveEntry.initSlaveBalancer(MasterSlav
>> eEntry.java:102)
>>>>
>>>>
>> INFO   | jvm 1    | main    | 2019/02/18 10:09:33.068 |         at
>>>> org.redisson.connection.MasterSlaveConnectionManager.createMasterSlav
>> eEntry(MasterSlaveConnectionManager.java:372)
>>>>
>>>>
>> INFO   | jvm 1    | main    | 2019/02/18 10:09:33.068 |         at
>>>> org.redisson.connection.MasterSlaveConnectionManager.initSingleEntry(
>> MasterSlaveConnectionManager.java:346)
>>>>
>>>>
>> INFO   | jvm 1    | main    | 2019/02/18 10:09:33.068 |         at
>>>> org.redisson.connection.MasterSlaveConnectionManager.<init>(MasterSla
>> veConnectionManager.java:161)
>>>>
>>>>
>> INFO   | jvm 1    | main    | 2019/02/18 10:09:33.068 |         at
>>>> org.redisson.config.ConfigSupport.createConnectionManager(ConfigSuppo
>> rt.java:225)
>>>>
>>>>
>> INFO   | jvm 1    | main    | 2019/02/18 10:09:33.068 |         at
>>>> org.redisson.Redisson.<init>(Redisson.java:121) INFO   | jvm 1
>>>> | main    | 2019/02/18 10:09:33.068 |         at
>>>> org.redisson.Redisson.create(Redisson.java:164) INFO   | jvm 1
>>>> | main    | 2019/02/18 10:09:33.068 |         at
>>>> org.redisson.tomcat.RedissonSessionManager.buildClient(RedissonSessio
>> nManager.java:277)
>>>>
>>>>
>> INFO   | jvm 1    | main    | 2019/02/18 10:09:33.068 |         ... 10 m
>> ore
>>>> INFO   | jvm 1    | main    | 2019/02/18 10:09:33.068 | INFO   |
>>>> jvm 1    | main    | 2019/02/18 10:09:33.068 | Feb 18, 2019
>>>> 10:09:33 AM org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext
>>>> startInternal INFO   | jvm 1    | main    | 2019/02/18
>>>> 10:09:33.068 | SEVERE: Context [] startup failed due to previous
>>>> errors
>>
>> Yep, the issue is in the Netty client. It's failing while trying to
>> validate an IP address. Specifically for a slave's address (I gather
>> from reading the stack trace). Are you sure anything that looks like
>> it should be an IP address is correct? Can slaveAddresses have a port
>> number? Are there other "address" type configuration parameters that
>> must be set but that you haven't set to something? Maybe a port number?
>>
>> I still think an NPE is a very non-graceful handling, here, and I
>> would expect that the SessionManager would perform a sanity-check on
>> all values -- especially if they are required -- before using them to
>> e.g. make a network connection.
>>
>> Hope that helps,
>> - -chris
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