On 24/04/2019 14:25, Mark Thomas wrote:
> On 24/04/2019 07:27, Mark Thomas wrote:
>> On 24/04/2019 02:10, Richard Huntrods wrote:
>>> I have confirmed with my email provider that tomcat.apache.org does
>>> indeed have nucleus.com on a blacklist. I can provide proof if needed,
>>> but I do need to get nucleus.com REMOVED from this blacklist.
>>
>> Please provide your proof - to [email protected] if you
>> don't want to post it to a public list.
> 
> Your mail host is rejecting connections from the ASF mail server:
> 
> From our logs:
> 
> <[email protected]>:
> 208.65.246.133 does not like recipient.
> Remote host said: 554 5.7.1 <hermes.apache.org[207.244.88.153]>: Client
> host rejected: cidr blacklist CPE abuse
> Giving up on 208.65.246.133.
> 
> There is nothing we can do to fix this. The issue is entirely with your
> mail provider.

And the provided proof confirms this.

The mail administrator for nucleus.com has opted to use the
backscatterer.org blacklist. That particular blacklist doesn't have a
great reputation since it blacklists for 30 days by default and charges
~$90 to get removed earlier than the default expiry.

While I do understand the logic behind both the way the blacklist is
compiled and the charging for early removal, it does strike me as an
arrangement that would be very easy use unethically.

The ASF will not be paying to be removed from this blacklist.

If you Google for "backscatterer extortion" you'll find a number of
complaints about this blacklist going back over an extended period of time.

Mark


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