Could this potentially be caused by 
        <Listener className="org.apache.catalina.core.AprLifecycleListener" 
SSLEngine="on" />

But not using Tomcat Native?

Thanks,

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thomas Hoffmann (Speed4Trade GmbH)
> <thomas.hoffm...@speed4trade.com.INVALID>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 11:28 AM
> To: Tomcat Users List <users@tomcat.apache.org>
> Subject: AW: [OT] issues with Tomcat to Siteminder communication post
> mod-proxy setup
> 
> Hello,
> 
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: jonmcalexan...@wellsfargo.com.INVALID
> > <jonmcalexan...@wellsfargo.com.INVALID>
> > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 13. Juli 2022 18:17
> > An: users@tomcat.apache.org
> > Betreff: RE: [OT] issues with Tomcat to Siteminder communication post
> > mod- proxy setup
> >
> > Here is the error we are getting. The login form, hosted by Tomcat,
> > does a POST to the /login/login.fcc for siteminder which is on the
> > HTTPD server and is not behind the proxypass or proxypassreverse.
> >
> > javax.net.ssl|DEBUG|96|https-jsse-nio-8305-exec-1|2022-07-12
> > 13:12:49.399
> > PDT|SSLSocketImpl.java:1615|close the SSL connection (passive) <class>
> > PDT|12
> > Jul 2022 13:12:49,399 ERROR [https-jsse-nio-8305-exec-1]: DEVT: <app>
> > Unable to get Channel Secure Session: Unable to perform siteminder
> > handshake
> > java.lang.Exception: Unable to perform siteminder handshake
> >
> > Our SiteMinder team is telling us it's not their issue. Again, this
> > POST worked fine when using mod_jk and SSL wasn't enabled for
> connection on Tomcat.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> 
> This error message is most likely thrown by the application and not by
> tomcat.
> The underlying error would be important including the full stack below.
> Are there some "caused by" Exceptions below?
> Otherwise the siteminder application is hiding the underlying Exception.
> 
> 
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> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: jonmcalexan...@wellsfargo.com.INVALID
> > > <jonmcalexan...@wellsfargo.com.INVALID>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 5:22 PM
> > > To: users@tomcat.apache.org
> > > Subject: RE: [OT] issues with Tomcat to Siteminder communication
> > > post
> > > mod- proxy setup
> > >
> > > I'm wondering if it is having to do with the SMSESSION cookie not
> > > getting passed correctly. Still trying to figure this one out.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Dream * Excel * Explore * Inspire
> > > Jon McAlexander
> > > Senior Infrastructure Engineer
> > > Asst. Vice President
> > > He/His
> > >
> > > Middleware Product Engineering
> > > Enterprise CIO | EAS | Middleware | Infrastructure Solutions
> > >
> > > 8080 Cobblestone Rd | Urbandale, IA 50322
> > > MAC: F4469-010
> > > Tel 515-988-2508 | Cell 515-988-2508
> > >
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> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Christopher Schultz <ch...@christopherschultz.net>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 9:16 AM
> > > > To: users@tomcat.apache.org
> > > > Subject: Re: [OT] issues with Tomcat to Siteminder communication
> > > > post
> > > > mod- proxy setup
> > > >
> > > > Jon,
> > > >
> > > > On 7/8/22 16:48, jonmcalexan...@wellsfargo.com.INVALID wrote:
> > > > > Chris,
> > > > >
> > > > > Moving this discussion to here. Yes, it appears that I broke
> > > > > something when
> > > > setting up the Tomcat Connector for the mod-proxy that is now
> > > > affecting, somehow, the SSL communication with the Site Minder
> > > > services. Here is the connector we added below.
> > > >
> > > > The only reason I can think of that would cause your Tomcat TLS
> > > > connector configuration to affect your SiteMinder thing is if you
> > > > are trying to specify the javax.net.ssl.trustStore system property
> > > > for the entire JVM, and allowing Tomcat to inherit that.
> > > >
> > > > > Temporarily have set certificateVerification to optional to see
> > > > > if it was something with the communication between HTTPD and
> Tomcat.
> > > > >
> > > > >                  <Connector port="8305"
> > > > > protocol="org.apache.coyote.http11.Http11NioProtocol"
> > > > maxThreads="100"
> > > > > compression="on" scheme="https" SSLEnabled="true"
> secure="true">
> > > > >
> > > > >                                  <SSLHostConfig protocols="TLSv1.2"
> > > > certificateVerification="optional" truststoreFile=""
> > truststorePassword=""
> > > > truststoreType="JKS"
> > > > >
> > > > > ciphers="TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384,
> > > >
> > > > Assuming truststoreFile is not actually _blank_, then this should be 
> > > > fine.
> > > >
> > > > >                                  
> > > > > TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384,
> > > > >                                  
> > > > > TLS_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384,
> > > > >                                  TLS_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_AES_256_CCM_8,
> > > > >                                  TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256,
> > > > >                                  
> > > > > TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256,
> > > > >                                  
> > > > > TLS_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256,
> > > > >                                  TLS_DHE_DSS_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256,
> > > > >                                  TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CCM,
> > > > >                                  TLS_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_AES_128_CCM,
> > > > >                                  TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CCM_8,
> > > > >
> > > > > TLS_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_AES_128_CCM_8,
> > > > >
> > > > > TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_CHACHA20_POLY1305_SHA256,
> > > > >
> > > > > TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_CHACHA20_POLY1305_SHA256,
> > > > >
> > > > > TLS_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_CHACHA20_POLY1305_SHA256">
> > > > >
> > > > >                                                  <Certificate
> > > > > Type="RSA" certificateKeystoreFile="<certificate>.pfx"
> > > > > certificateKeystorePassword="" certificateKeystoreType="pkcs12"
> > > > > />
> > > >
> > > > Note: none of the TLS_XXX_ECDSA_* cipher suites will do anything
> > > > for you, since you are using only an RSA key.
> > > >
> > > > Is your SiteMinder client code using its own special trust store
> > > > and key
> > > store?
> > > > If you are getting a handshake failure (mentioned in your message
> > > > to dev@httpd but not here yet: "javax.net.ssl.SSLHandshakeException:
> > > > Received fatal alert: bad_certificate error"), you might want to
> > > > start looking there. The problem is very unlikely to be your
> > > > Tomcat configuration or anything related to it, unless you use the
> > > > same key store and trust store for both.
> > > >
> > > > -chris
> > > >
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