Hello,

> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Martin Moore <martinmoore...@gmail.com>
> Gesendet: Sonntag, 9. Oktober 2022 17:59
> An: Tomcat Users List <users@tomcat.apache.org>
> Betreff: Re: About granting permissions to Tomcat JVM
> 
> @thomas.hoffm...@speed4trade.com.invalid
> <thomas.hoffm...@speed4trade.com.invalid>  how to use the debugger in
> this case ?any documentation pls ?

For debugging you need the sources. Either you have a development environment 
where you start debugging.
Alternatively you can open a JMX port and do remote debugging (e.g. with 
eclipse)
Details about remote debugging are e.g. 
https://stackify.com/java-remote-debugging/ 

I don’t think that there a libs or something else missing. As you see an open 
file handle, the next step is to
figure out which part of the program is causing the left open file handle.


> @Rob Sargent i posted most of the methods used in the app, but yes JVM is
> holding off on deleting the file...
> 
> Le dim. 9 oct. 2022 à 17:31, Thomas Hoffmann (Speed4Trade GmbH)
> <thomas.hoffm...@speed4trade.com.invalid> a écrit :
> 
> > Hello,
> >
> > > About the methods i use in the application along with file.delete()
> > (which is
> > > what this post is about) I use File[] files = new
> > > File("C:\\SomeFolder").listFiles();
> > > file.getName();
> > > file.lastModified()
> > > Path path = Paths.get(fileName);
> > > Would any of these cause the lock on the file ?
> >
> > They don't look suspicious to me. What you could do is, use the
> > debugger to go step by step.
> > In parallel, use the ProcessExplorer to see at which point the file
> > handle appears.
> > Maybe it is more hidden in some other routines which might use a
> > MappedByteBuffer to read or write.
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Le dim. 9 oct. 2022 à 16:03, Thomas Hoffmann (Speed4Trade GmbH)
> > > <thomas.hoffm...@speed4trade.com.invalid> a écrit :
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > > > > Von: Martin Moore <martinmoore...@gmail.com>
> > > > > Gesendet: Sonntag, 9. Oktober 2022 15:37
> > > > > An: thomas.hoffm...@speed4trade.com.invalid; Tomcat Users List
> > > > > <users@tomcat.apache.org>
> > > > > Betreff: Re: About granting permissions to Tomcat JVM
> > > > >
> > > > > the ProcessExplorer shows that a Java process is running on the
> > > > > file and
> > > > this
> > > > > only after actually performing the delete from Java.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Some possibilities for file locking.
> > > > - the upload process didn’t close the streams properly
> > > > - You use http2 and sendfile
> > > > - You are using a MappedByteBuffer before deletion:
> > > > https://bugs.openjdk.org/browse/JDK-4724038
> > > >
> > > > ... just some ideas which cause file locking ...
> > > >
> > > > > Le dim. 9 oct. 2022 à 15:23, Thomas Hoffmann (Speed4Trade GmbH)
> > > > > <thomas.hoffm...@speed4trade.com.invalid> a écrit :
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > this might be a behavior of the underlying OS.
> > > > > > If the file is locked, it is marked for deletion and when the
> > > > > > file lock is released, the file is physically deleted.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Maybe you can check with ProcessExplorer from MS whether there
> > > > > > is an open file handle on this file.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Greetings,
> > > > > > Thomas
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > > > > > > Von: Martin Moore <martinmoore...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > Gesendet: Sonntag, 9. Oktober 2022 09:56
> > > > > > > An: Tomcat Users List <users@tomcat.apache.org>;
> > > > > > > ma...@apache.org
> > > > > > > Betreff: Re: About granting permissions to Tomcat JVM
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hello Mark,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I don't know if the SecurityManager is enabled or not (how
> > > > > > > to disable it
> > > > > > > btw?)
> > > > > > > I set the env var CATALINA_HOME to be C:/Program
> > > > > > > Files/Apache-Tomcat-8/ The files in question are stored in
> > > > > > > Desktop/SomeFolder
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Le dim. 9 oct. 2022 à 08:00, Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org>
> > > > > > > a écrit
> > > > :
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 08/10/2022 17:36, Martin Moore wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I am facing a problem using Tomcat V8 with my J2ee app
> > > > > > > > > that deletes
> > > > > > > > (using
> > > > > > > > > file.delete() Java 8) a file from disk (Windows). The
> > > > > > > > > file is actually deleting only on application level
> > > > > > > > > meaning that the application does not see the file
> > > > > > > > > anymore but if i open the folder i still see the file
> > > > > > > > > which
> > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > then locked by Java process. I only get the file to be
> > > > > > > > > removed physically when i close the Tomcat instance.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Does this problem relate to permissions in catalina.policy ?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Unlikely.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Are you using a SecurityManager?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > How to solve this?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Where, exactly, are you storing these files? Where,
> > > > > > > > exactly, are CATALINA_HOME and CATALINA_BASE?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Mark
> > > > > > > >
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