Hi,

If I understand Filip's answer correctly... the difference between the
default tomcat-juli.jar and the output/extras/tomcat-juli.jar is that the
first one is some glue code that hardcodes commons-logging to  work only
with java.util.logging and the second supports the "complete"
commons-logging - therefore also log4j.

So am I correct to think that it does not hurt to have the "extras"
tomcat-juli.jar and tomcat-juli-adapters.jar in the ${catalina.home}/lib,
without log4j.jar, and still successfully log by configuring a j.u.l 
${catalina.base}/conf/logging.properties ?

Bill's comment is an interesting one. I remember seeing somewhere (tomcat
docs?) a warning against app reloading; that doing so was a memory leak soon
or later.

Many Thanks - Fred

fredk2 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> To use log4j the documentation
> http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-6.0-doc/logging.html
> suggest that we need to:
>
> 1. Replace $CATALINA_HOME/bin/tomcat-juli.jar with the
> output/extras/tomcat-juli.jar.
>
> 2. Place output/extras/tomcat-juli-adapters.jar in $CATALINA_HOME/lib.
>
> What do these file do?  why are they extras and why not have them in the
> default build?
>   
they enable you to plug in commons-logging if you want to use that 
instead of java.util.logging

Filip
> In my quick basic tests I did not observe any difference in the logging
> behaviors when compared to the original tomcat-juli.jar. Can anyone
> explain
> how or when this would become a problem?
>
> Many Thanks - Fred
>   

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