On 28 Jan 2011, at 18:53, "beau.hutche...@thomsonreuters.com"
<beau.hutche...@thomsonreuters.com> wrote:

> @Pid: The SSo third party app knows the SSO entry point into my Tomcat app. I 
> am supplied an encrypted token which contains the username and my tomcat app 
> has the libraries to unencrypt that token and unveil the username

If you're using Tomcat 6 the only safe* way to do this is to implement JAAS.

It's a bit of a hassle but the result will be worth it.


p

*IMHO

> @Andre: Ideally it would seem most convenient to access j_security_check with 
> a valid j_username and a j_password with a blank value, so then the tomcat 
> container would generate the proper principal and roles information.
> I want to be able to use request.getRemoteUser() and 
> request.isUserInRole(String role).
>
> It would seem that I can extend AuthenticatorBase and mimic everything that 
> FormAuthenticator does except for the password query part.
>
> Or I can use a hack for the DataSourceRealm and use my "UserName" column for 
> both the userCredCol and userNameCol values. Therefore no password to check 
> for.
>
> Beau
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: André Warnier [mailto:a...@ice-sa.com]
> Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 6:36 AM
> To: Tomcat Users List
> Subject: Re: Pid OpenSSO request for Tomcat Form Authentication that requires 
> no password for third party SSO
>
> Pid wrote:
>> On 1/27/11 3:57 PM, beau.hutche...@thomsonreuters.com wrote:
>>> Chris:
>>> Thanks for your reply.
>>> Currently I am using Tomcat 6.0.29
>>>
>>> @Pid: Would you have any ideas on how to set something up like this?
>>
>> What details are you providing to Tomcat?
>>
>> If I read the thread correctly you've got a single parameter - how are
>> you validating that to stop say, me, guessing at logins?
>>
>
> That's easy, as long as Tomcat accepts only connections from a source known 
> to go through
> the aforementioned SSO.
>
> I have a similar setup at one of my customers.  This is only an example :
> All users use a session on a specific Windows Terminal Server. In that 
> session, they open
> a browser, which allows them to connect to Tomcat (*).
> Tomcat accepts only connections from the IP's of the Terminal Server.
> On the Terminal Server runs that nifty SSO mechanism which I mentioned in 
> another message
> here.  Somehow, that SSO "detects" the login page which the Tomcat 
> authentication is
> sending back to the browser, fills-in the userid (**), and re-posts the login 
> form to the
> server.
> The user is now logged-in and gets the application page.
> The user does not see anything.
>
> I know that it sounds a bit strange when one explains it like that, but it 
> works.
>
> (**) the user-id being sent is the user's Windows Domain user-id, which has 
> already been
> authenticated/verified, so it can be "trusted".  There is thus no need to 
> verify it again
> in Tomcat.
>
> (*) Ok, I'm cheating : in my case, it is not Tomcat directly, but it is an 
> Apache httpd
> front-ending for Tomcat, and connecting to it via mod_jk.  mod_jk will pass 
> on the
> httpd-level user-id, and Tomcat (with the 'tomcatAuthentication="false" 
> attribute on the
> AJP Connector), will accept that user-id as its own.
> At the Tomcat level, you would still have to do the "isUserInRole" part 
> though.
>
> Now the question is : assuming that there is no httpd front-end and no 
> mod_jk, can a
> similar mechanism work with Tomcat directly ?
> In other words, can the standard Tomcat form-based authentication work, if 
> the login form
> is sent back with a non-blank userid, but with a blank password ?
> And could this authentication code be easily "tweaked" to bypass any 
> verification of the
> received user-id ?
>
> And, to the original poster : apologies for somewhat hijacking your thread, 
> but I am just
> trying to help finding the best method for you.
>
> I have a feeling that for this case, having to create a brand-new 
> Authenticator is a bit
> heavy as a solution.  It seems that it should be possible to at least crate 
> some "null
> Realm" which always accepts any user-id and always returns OK.
> Or use whatever mechanism mod_jk is using to the same basic effect.
>
>
>
>
>
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